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Koen,
Done a bit more research, if you are an android user then the app to use is "Torque" for android, gives you the same ability as Rev, but you will need a Bluetooth ELM327 adapter
Done a bit more research, if you are an android user then the app to use is "Torque" for android, gives you the same ability as Rev, but you will need a Bluetooth ELM327 adapter
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That's great news, can you report back to this thread with your findings / thoughts, as this is one feature I won't be using anytime soon.ELM327 WIFI dongle ordered, will have a play with this on the 6th May at Cadwell
No Problem, although I may be too embarrassing to publish the data
Waiting on your result ;-)ELM327 WIFI dongle ordered, will have a play with this on the 6th May at Cadwell
Received my Wi-Fi dongle today, installed the Rev2 app and it all connected really easily. The cable I used to connect the dongle was out of my BMTechnics software package. Result. Ill have some fun with this and report back
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Brilliant news Brian, same setup as myself, you just need to perfect a holding method for the dongle while driving, mine is masking tape to the strut brace at the moment!
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I have just bought the same:
didn't have a cable, so bought:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0054FJEDK
and this for the wifi box:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00DYOVXZ0
then Rev for the iphone
plugged it in - iphone found wifi network - all worked - that simple
Alasdair
didn't have a cable, so bought:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0054FJEDK
and this for the wifi box:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00DYOVXZ0
then Rev for the iphone
plugged it in - iphone found wifi network - all worked - that simple
Alasdair
Is anyone using it on Android?
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Great news Alasdair, can I ask once you have had a good play with it you report back to this thread, I think it is important to gather the knowledge on this and what is available / capable etcI have just bought the same:
didn't have a cable, so bought:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0054FJEDK
and this for the wifi box:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00DYOVXZ0
then Rev for the iphone
plugged it in - iphone found wifi network - all worked - that simple
Alasdair
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I am not really sure what to say
- does what it says on the tin - iphone connects with no hassle (manual says you need to set IP address tc. - but it did it automatically)
- code reader works (picked up same code as my mechanic's 'proper' device and a friend's older laptop and software)
- guages seem to work... but c.f. below
- have't tried race track function, but might take it around the block (through the next couple of villages) to test it...
negs so far...
- guages are not 100% real time - so if you put it on the Rev counter and blip the throttle the rev needle is not smooth and tied directly to the throttle - there is a lag
- measurements such as g-force / acceleration etc. is not a reading from the car, but a calculation based on using GPS / accelerometer within the phone, and that lacks accuracy - the screens show bubbles you are meant to centre, but a quick bit of fiddling suggests that this is not as simple / intuitive as expected... I would suspect that the readings from the car will be accurate, but others might be a little more contrived...
- the manual is poor, but use is fairly intuitive
value...
- value is primarily in the ability to read and reset codes which works very well at a cost of c. £50 it is a cheap option - and there is probably a cheaper software element (the cable and wifi was just over £20. which is very cheap - my mechanic is generous enough to not always charge for investigating, but if yours does, it will pay back quickly - and anyway, more convenient...
- guages etc. are perhaps a novelty not much more...
- if the race track stuff works (I don't race) then it becomes a very cheap metrics solution...
worth having? - yes, a very cheap 'toy' with value - which everyone who sees it going wow!
Alasdair
- does what it says on the tin - iphone connects with no hassle (manual says you need to set IP address tc. - but it did it automatically)
- code reader works (picked up same code as my mechanic's 'proper' device and a friend's older laptop and software)
- guages seem to work... but c.f. below
- have't tried race track function, but might take it around the block (through the next couple of villages) to test it...
negs so far...
- guages are not 100% real time - so if you put it on the Rev counter and blip the throttle the rev needle is not smooth and tied directly to the throttle - there is a lag
- measurements such as g-force / acceleration etc. is not a reading from the car, but a calculation based on using GPS / accelerometer within the phone, and that lacks accuracy - the screens show bubbles you are meant to centre, but a quick bit of fiddling suggests that this is not as simple / intuitive as expected... I would suspect that the readings from the car will be accurate, but others might be a little more contrived...
- the manual is poor, but use is fairly intuitive
value...
- value is primarily in the ability to read and reset codes which works very well at a cost of c. £50 it is a cheap option - and there is probably a cheaper software element (the cable and wifi was just over £20. which is very cheap - my mechanic is generous enough to not always charge for investigating, but if yours does, it will pay back quickly - and anyway, more convenient...
- guages etc. are perhaps a novelty not much more...
- if the race track stuff works (I don't race) then it becomes a very cheap metrics solution...
worth having? - yes, a very cheap 'toy' with value - which everyone who sees it going wow!
Alasdair
Just been reading up on another app alternative called DashCommand that gets very good reviews and was selling for £34.99 but is now £6.99 which is a bargain. It seems to do everything that Rev can do and the graphical interface looks far better so I might give this a go now and get the cable adapter and wifi adapter linked above unless someone says otherwise.
Has anyone tried DashCommand ?
Has anyone tried DashCommand ?
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I agree the gauges are not real time, but they are data logging actual events from the engine in second increments, so there is a huge benefit for diagnostics for intermittent faults that only present when driving, as you can look back through the log to the event and see what is happening. To be honest there is not a lot to be monitored on a Z3, but on my T5, I can monitor boost pressures, egr and DPF etc which is a benefit.
It is worth going through the calibration phase, as the iPhone / ipad has GPS, accelerometers etc so this data coupled with real engine data will provide nearly accurate data, and a scientific equation is after all a scientific equation so the results will be good enough for the likes of us, but maybe not an F1 team. That said I don't expect a BHP figure to be as accurate as a dyno, but it should be indicative within a margin of error.
If you are just going to need diagnostics then OBCD Facile is a better program, and probably works out even cheaper, but for hobby track days REV should be good enough, and the actual data can be output into CSV file for use in excel for producing better graphs than the app, but also to review the data in detail, so can go beyond the toy value.
From discussions I am lead to believe that the app Torque on Android is also very good.
Overall I have the same conclusion as you, it is a great alternative to a handheld or windows version of diagnostics and reset etc, especially for those who have moved away from a PC or Laptop.
It is worth going through the calibration phase, as the iPhone / ipad has GPS, accelerometers etc so this data coupled with real engine data will provide nearly accurate data, and a scientific equation is after all a scientific equation so the results will be good enough for the likes of us, but maybe not an F1 team. That said I don't expect a BHP figure to be as accurate as a dyno, but it should be indicative within a margin of error.
If you are just going to need diagnostics then OBCD Facile is a better program, and probably works out even cheaper, but for hobby track days REV should be good enough, and the actual data can be output into CSV file for use in excel for producing better graphs than the app, but also to review the data in detail, so can go beyond the toy value.
From discussions I am lead to believe that the app Torque on Android is also very good.
Overall I have the same conclusion as you, it is a great alternative to a handheld or windows version of diagnostics and reset etc, especially for those who have moved away from a PC or Laptop.
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Hi Aceman, I had downloaded but not tested, last one I tested was nova scan, did not like the user interface, I will try dashcommand tomorrow and post some screen shots. If it is good then that makes a solution even cheaper.
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Has anyone tried DashCommand ?
Am downloading - so will try it - looks very good...
Overall I have the same conclusion as you, it is a great alternative to a handheld or windows version of diagnostics and reset etc, especially for those who have moved away from a PC or Laptop.
Indeed - more than anything else it is very fast - far quicker than any other way of reading codes etc. (and fun!)
Alasdair
Am downloading - so will try it - looks very good...
Overall I have the same conclusion as you, it is a great alternative to a handheld or windows version of diagnostics and reset etc, especially for those who have moved away from a PC or Laptop.
Indeed - more than anything else it is very fast - far quicker than any other way of reading codes etc. (and fun!)
Alasdair
I got some data from the REV2 app, exported as a .CSV and put into charts.
You can select what you want to monitor before you click on the track mode, some of the options WHP and Engine Torque do not seem to register any values. Will play with it some more
Before anyone asks, yes it was a private road
You can select what you want to monitor before you click on the track mode, some of the options WHP and Engine Torque do not seem to register any values. Will play with it some more
Before anyone asks, yes it was a private road
I got some data from the REV2 app, exported as a .CSV and put into charts.
You can select what you want to monitor before you click on the track mode, some of the options WHP and Engine Torque do not seem to register any values. Will play with it some more
Before anyone asks, yes it was a private road
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Hi Brian, Alasdair is correct the bhp and torque are taken from calculation so you need to add additional parameters such as curb weight which is 1450 kg dry plus the driver weight and any passengers etc.
I have been playing around with dashcommand today and it allows for more specific parameters to be added in but the torque and bhp figures seem ballpark, only issue with this app it does not appear to output to csv file. But again with a look for track day fun.
I have been playing around with dashcommand today and it allows for more specific parameters to be added in but the torque and bhp figures seem ballpark, only issue with this app it does not appear to output to csv file. But again with a look for track day fun.
I certainly had the kerb weight in the app and had my iPhone calibrated but may have moved the phone before the trip out. I will try again these values again at some point.