European Union

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Who gives a flying **** anyway in or out it wont matter to me, it is what it is.
Sorry Jim, but its to little to late, the UK will not benefit by leaving now, but what do I care?
When I was over last year for the NF run, the pound ripped us to bits, must be hitting your export?
 

miller1098

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You have to vote with your conscience ,but vote with some consideration to the real issues and not some made up stories ,I'm listening to all your points and you may make me change my mind,I'm open to that.
 

hard top

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listening to all your points and you may make me change my mind,I'm open to that.
Yeah, cause your Welsh, want to buy a Texel lamb? Or a Friesian cow?....:D
Cheap at the moment due to the strong pound but it did drop a bit when all this sh*** kicked off....;)
 

smiffy

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The Polish chap living next door and working for what he gets isn't our problem, it isn't necessarily "europeans" that are our problem. Our country has attracted foreign "communities" that have set up camp here and expect us to cater for their needs.

Will leaving the EU allow us to:
  • deport foreign nationals that don't contribute and don't integrate?
  • deny entry entry to anyone we choose and return them to their place of origin?
  • tackle to issues of "hate preachers" without falling foul of human rights laws and lawyers?
I can see lots of reasons for leaving the EU, but the middle east refugee issue isn't one, in fact, if we leave I could quiet easily see mainland europe channeling the whole lot of them in our direction,dumping them on our shores.
The current migrant/refugee situation we are seeing, why isn't the source of the problem not being sorted out? It is often stated that "we screwed up" by getting rid of Gadafi and Hussein, why aren't the global peacekeepers going back and sorting out these countries once and for all, including Syria, and making them safe for these people to return?

If we are to leave the EU, we need to grow some balls and become pretty nasty b@5tards for a while and conduct a bit of ethnic cleansing, but "the Pole next door" can stay.

Don't call me a racist, but you are welcome to call me a nationalist.

On the NHS, they let me down badly, well Emily the big fat "West African" physiotherapist let me down and she held the power, I paid for private health care when I needed the NHS the most. However, when I called for an ambulance for my brother it was there in minutes and the NHS saved his life.
 

smiffy

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miller1098

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If we are to leave the EU, we need to grow some balls and become pretty nasty b@5tards for a while and conduct a bit of ethnic cleansing, but "the Pole next door" can stay.

Don't call me a racist, but you are welcome to call me a nationalist.
I really hope you didn't mean that.
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smiffy

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"forced removal of or religious groups from a given territory by "the english", with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous, British, again. The forces applied may be various forms "including" forced deportation.

You've not been to anywhere like Luton or Bradford or Walthamstow lately then?

I want to be able to walk along any high street, with a Union Jack hat on whistling the national anthem without the risk of assault or intimidation. I don't want to see mega-mosques being built in our cities and our daughters fearful of foreign opinion regarding their dress sense. I certainly don't want to see a repeat of the "Cologne Rapes" in our cities.

I want Britain to be Great again and whilst I'd never condone violence, but I would like to see Britain be the Great Britain our fore-fathers gave so much for, often stood and fighting alongside French, Polish and Czech's fighting also for their freedoms.
 
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M666BMG

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The Polish chap living next door and working for what he gets isn't our problem, it isn't necessarily "europeans" that are our problem. Our country has attracted foreign "communities" that have set up camp here and expect us to cater for their needs.

Will leaving the EU allow us to:
  • deport foreign nationals that don't contribute and don't integrate?
  • deny entry entry to anyone we choose and return them to their place of origin?
  • tackle to issues of "hate preachers" without falling foul of human rights laws and lawyers?
I can see lots of reasons for leaving the EU, but the middle east refugee issue isn't one, in fact, if we leave I could quiet easily see mainland europe channeling the whole lot of them in our direction,dumping them on our shores.
The current migrant/refugee situation we are seeing, why isn't the source of the problem not being sorted out? It is often stated that "we screwed up" by getting rid of Gadafi and Hussein, why aren't the global peacekeepers going back and sorting out these countries once and for all, including Syria, and making them safe for these people to return?

If we are to leave the EU, we need to grow some balls and become pretty nasty b@5tards for a while and conduct a bit of ethnic cleansing, but "the Pole next door" can stay.

Don't call me a racist, but you are welcome to call me a nationalist.

On the NHS, they let me down badly, well Emily the big fat "West African" physiotherapist let me down and she held the power, I paid for private health care when I needed the NHS the most. However, when I called for an ambulance for my brother it was there in minutes and the NHS saved his life.
Poor Emily!
 

Acousticplayer

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Wow what passion we are seeing,thank goodness.
I hope such passion is spreading across the country.

As a matter of interest does anybody on here actually know what happens to our £20 BILLION ANNUAL fee less of course salaries and other expenses so shall we say £10 BILLION?
 

Antm72

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I've been reading with intent and have yet to see the full pro's and cons , where i live and the job i do puts me in contact with many foriegn groups like most cities they accumilate in certain areas.It is intimidating to see big groups of people on the streets in the day and houses with many people living all which speak no english language at all. Not all want to come and do nothing , the polish work hard and are very nice to deal with and are very accomodating in there homes but a vast a mount due to the group sizes sit on the streets in to the early hours with the front doors open with loud music on again for many residents a feeling of intimidation in their homes and with many many cuts no chance of police presence or action.
The country is in a mess due to the people that run it. Sheffield the steel city is now nearly on its knees with cheap import steel.
Before mass import and export we where an island thats industries made us great steel, coal etc the vast magority see it is cheaper to buy in things but at what real cost to the masses ? Job losses, cuts ...Britain needs a back bone its our country and we should have a greater say in it , probably 90% of this thread is for people wanting out maybe through frustration and propergander but the news only reports the bad and as we sit and watch it is tragic but help as we may want , the costs cause our communities and services to errode and if action isn't taken what will we have left ?
 

TaffZee

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Migrants are not the problem here, it is the way we enforce the Migrant situation, people out there are crying out for help and this should be given without question, but unfortunately mixed up with these people are undesirables who are using the current situation to their advantage. We need to make a stand against these undesirables and if necessary deport them back to where they entered the country (as border patrols are currently doing at airports all over the world), although we are a multi ethnic country and we should be proud of this, people entering GB should be willing to integrate 100% into our country (not the other way around) and respect our laws. Any breach in this and the adopting country must have the right to deport them. Hate preachers should be arrested and dealt with without question as should anyone who are proven radical (regardless of race) and threaten the security and safety of our country and our way of life.

Racist is a much abused word, if you object to any other peoples beliefs and laws you are labelled as a Racist,
 

Z Victor 1

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Well,it's all very interesting and I believe most of us would really like to see the 'figures' presented to us all in clear and unbiased fashion.
Eg; yes we pay 'x' billion to be in the EU,but what would we have to pay to the EU if we were not a member.The same amount as Norway?More?Less? etc.We need similar information on every issue,but what we tend to get is 'spin',or clearly biased views and half truths.
There is no doubt this country can survive in the world whether in or out,but what is best for the majority of the population?
NOW,can we forget about politics on here - it's Z roadsters we should be talking about - let's get our priorities right.
 

Acousticplayer

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I,m glad I didn,t start it although I thought about it very carefully.
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Being such an emotive subject,I thought it may lead to the collapse of the Union.The ORG union that is.
 

FRANKIE

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Migrants are not the problem here, it is the way we enforce the Migrant situation, people out there are crying out for help and this should be given without question, but unfortunately mixed up with these people are undesirables who are using the current situation to their advantage. We need to make a stand against these undesirables and if necessary deport them back to where they entered the country (as border patrols are currently doing at airports all over the world), although we are a multi ethnic country and we should be proud of this, people entering GB should be willing to integrate 100% into our country (not the other way around) and respect our laws. Any breach in this and the adopting country must have the right to deport them. Hate preachers should be arrested and dealt with without question as should anyone who are proven radical (regardless of race) and threaten the security and safety of our country and our way of life.

Racist is a much abused word, if you object to any other peoples beliefs and laws you are labelled as a Racist,
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