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Duncodin

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Piran. Your rear lights are they Volvo P1800?
What's the best place to get them. OEM? Or Bay? Or?
 

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Ian, you're spot on. 250mm minimum up to 1000mm maximum depending on where you look.

I bought the pair that you're looking at but have backtracked and am only using the fog light now. I've bought a pair of vw t2 reversing lights for under the rear lights.

Will position fog light centrally under the bumper which will make it about 350mm from the floor.
 

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Ian, I got my p1800 lights from ebay. Make sure you buy the light to body gaskets as they don't come supplied
 

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I'm still weeks, maybe months away from actually doing anything but my head is already planning.

I'm going to get identical reversing and fog lights under the bumper - ie same body with different coloured lenses.

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Depending on what side of the channel I find myself there'll be a switch in the boot to change the action and just swap the lenses. Simples.
This is pretty much what I've got. Just looking at the regulations and in europe https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=uriserv:OJ.L_.2019.014.01.0042.01.ENG ) you must have both a reversing lamp and a fog light. There's no position requirements for the reversing light (other than a minimum height of 250mm) but the fog light must either be in the centre or towards the centre of the road (i.e. different between the UK and most of Europe).

Doing it by swapping the lenses could work but you would also have to swap the wiring.
You could put the fog in the centre, and the reverse to one side (maybe balancing the exhaust?) - I'm not sure
Fortunately that was going to be todays task and I haven't started drilling yet.
 

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There's a rule that says that the fog light can not be less than a certain distance from any other light. I don't know how that applies if the fog is in the same cluster as the stop/tail lights - or maybe the clusters are designed to comply with that rule. 40mm if my memory serves. But I'm likely wrong.

But having the fog in exactly the same place as a different light might not be allowed. Also only a white light (ie one that just looks white) to the rear might get PC Jobsworthy to stop you thinking that you don't have a fog light.
 

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There's a rule that says that the fog light can not be less than a certain distance from any other light. I don't know how that applies if the fog is in the same cluster as the stop/tail lights - or maybe the clusters are designed to comply with that rule. 40mm if my memory serves. But I'm likely wrong.

But having the fog in exactly the same place as a different light might not be allowed. Also only a white light (ie one that just looks white) to the rear might get PC Jobsworthy to stop you thinking that you don't have a fog light.
It needs to be at least 100mm from the stop lights but doesn't say anything about other lights
 

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That's because rear fog lights and stop lights are the same intensity so a following vehicle can see when they operate clearly.

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Is there a requirement for reversing light, though, for MOT purposes?
I can cope with putting in wiring for a (removable) rear fog light but a reversing light will only be done if absolutely necessary.

Can't help but smile at the irony of spending time wiring a rear fog light which 99% of the driving population complain are used unnecessarily by many people! :)
 

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In the EU it would appear that you do need a reversing light, not sure about the UK for MOT purposes.
 

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I think you’re possibly all overthinking this as many uk cars only have one fog light fitted from the factory, so when visiting Europe it’s in the wrong side.
If you exported the car permanently then you’d have to make the alteration. But not for holidays.
 

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You dont need reversing in the UK currently. Your light clusters have in built reflectors I assume (also a requirement). I have fog lights that are led reflectors on the kobra. Simple to fit and unobtrusive.

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IF you fit a reversing light, it has to work, automatically with reverse gear selected. NOT on a switch (even with a tell-tale light).

Tony.
 

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I think you’re possibly all overthinking this as many uk cars only have one fog light fitted from the factory, so when visiting Europe it’s in the wrong side.
If you exported the car permanently then you’d have to make the alteration. But not for holidays.
Very good point, I'll drag myself back out of the rabbit hole !
 

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I think you’re possibly all overthinking this as many uk cars only have one fog light fitted from the factory, so when visiting Europe it’s in the wrong side.
If you exported the car permanently then you’d have to make the alteration. But not for holidays.
Whilst true, it's not very safe to be driving in thick fog and having the guy behind thinking you are at the side of the road, but you are actually on the main highway.
 

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Well progress:
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I have all the rear lights on and working - the fog and reverse aren't excatly vertical and I'll have to measure the distance from the floor (hopefully it will just make the 250mm). The boot catch is now on ad working (including with the central locking), boot is tidied and loom wrapped.
Wheel liners are on so moving forward it's the fuel flap and finish sanding the back panels, but I'll probably go forward and start on the headlights.
 

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You could move the lights above the bumper they look good higher up.
I might get reverse lights to go there, Steve has done this and the blue car that’s also finished
 

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Piran

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Ah, hadn't seen that before, was looking for something period (hence the chrome), well I'll se what it's like when I get her down.
I also need to move the exhaust pipes as they're currently pointing into the rear body work
 

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just thinking about those ones - don't they have to 100mm from the brake lights to avoid confusion?
 
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