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t-tony

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Two words I think.
And then a short conversation with the sales manager who's just lost a sale.
It's not good.
It's worse than "not good" Ian, it's downright p*** poor. I can only imagine how you would've felt if you'd had one, or more letters through the posting saying we're you the driver of. . . . . . . on such and such date/time.
When I road test customers cars I always respect them by observing all traffic measures including speed limits.

Tony.
 

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What - I have to put my shovel back in the car?
It's getting like Trigger's broom =))
Along the lines of "what's your Policy with regards to test driving customer cars?" Why's that Sir? "I'm asking the questions, now focus your mince pies on this footage of your staff speeding in my vehicle!" Then get the shovel out ;)
 

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In Winnipeg all parking fees are taken by third party vendors with not a penny of the money going to the hospital! I expect this is the norm across Canada. How stupid is the hospital administration to allow someone else to make and keep all proceeds from parking on property they own???
Then the machine wouldn't read my ticket when I tried to pay at the station last Friday after picking Joan up after she was released. I had to walk outside the hospital to the emergency entrance to find another machine which cost me another hour of time to pay for!!! JIM
 

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The point is the government never do anything good for the motorist, when can any of you remember something that is advantageous coming from a new law or motion passed for the poor over taxed motorist!!!:mad:

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Along the lines of "what's your Policy with regards to test driving customer cars?" Why's that Sir? "I'm asking the questions, now focus your mince pies on this footage of your staff speeding in my vehicle!" Then get the shovel out ;)
I think there's a more immediate way of getting a response.
The local plod have a multi page report you fill in to report dangerous driving.
I'll fill one in and give the dealer principal a copy to comment on before consider if I hand in the original. That might get their attention. Then hand my shovel over to the nice policeman.
 

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I think there's a more immediate way of getting a response.
The local plod have a multi page report you fill in to report dangerous driving.
I'll fill one in and give the dealer principal a copy to comment on before consider if I hand in the original. That might get their attention. Then hand my shovel over to the nice policeman.
That's a good idea and will focus the mind.
 

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It's worse than "not good" Ian, it's downright p*** poor. I can only imagine how you would've felt if you'd had one, or more letters through the posting saying we're you the driver of. . . . . . . on such and such date/time.
When I road test customers cars I always respect them by observing all traffic measures including speed limits.

Tony.
They are not above the law. As you say, I just as anyone would be rather p*ssed off to get a letter.
 

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Perfect timing - I just received an email from the stealer asking for feedback. There isn't enough space.
 
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It depends on how the image is held. JPEGs it is difficult but, if you invert the image then apply some re-mapping of the levels (i.e. making it non-linear) you can stretch the shadow areas to get back some image detail.
If the image is RAW its an awful lot easier, but, I suspect to get small file sizes that they use a highly compressed JPEG file format.
The speed camera vans will use mpeg-4 as a recording format, massive compression with huge GOP rates so no recovery of any data from these images.
 

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Back to speed cameras...

Like many on here I have a dash cam but only in my Land Rover.
Last week it was in for a service and MoT.
Instead of following my instructions to check a few things including headlight alignment, they took the car straight for its MoT. It failed due to headlight alignment.
Among many gripes I've got about that experience, I decided to take a look at the video from the camera. They normally unplug it the first thing they do. Here's why.
On the video it shows the driver doing 40mph for some considerable distance in a 30mph zone, on a school day, and right by a school. There are several instances of the limit being broken by up to 10mph on the 5 minute journey.

So - what would you do?
That's really bad, is it a large garage group? Or an independent?

I've worked for enough main dealers in the past to know that the rules are simply "if you're driving a customers, or company car, you drive it sensibly"

If it was me I would go and see the manager and insist the employee gets a written warning at the minimum.

What if someone saw your Landrover drive past that school too fast and recognises your car? I really would be livid.
 

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That's really bad, is it a large garage group? Or an independent?

I've worked for enough main dealers in the past to know that the rules are simply "if you're driving a customers, or company car, you drive it sensibly"

If it was me I would go and see the manager and insist the employee gets a written warning at the minimum.

What if someone saw your Landrover drive past that school too fast and recognises your car? I really would be livid.
Yes I am livid - about a whole litany of issues where they failed to look at a number minor problems, returned the car with brake discs below the recommended thickness and then the speeding - that's the icing on the cake.

While I agree - I don't see why I should spend lots of time and money travelling 15 miles across city to give them an earful.

Reputation is hard to get and easy to lose. Land Rover and Sytners just lost.

I might just get my local Indy to fix the issues up and I'll run it for a few more years.
 

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Reputation is hard to get and easy to lose. Land Rover and Sytners just lost.
That's a shame, I've had several dealings with Sytners over the years, albeit through the trade side of things, and my experiences have all been good. However, they do have many, many dealerships.

If you emailed their head office about what's happened I think they'd take it very seriously.
 

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That's a shame, I've had several dealings with Sytners over the years, albeit through the trade side of things, and my experiences have all been good. However, they do have many, many dealerships.

If you emailed their head office about what's happened I think they'd take it very seriously.
Just emailed the Principal and the Service Manager. They get first shot at responding.
Lets see what happens.
 

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Back to speed cameras...

Like many on here I have a dash cam but only in my Land Rover.
Last week it was in for a service and MoT.
Instead of following my instructions to check a few things including headlight alignment, they took the car straight for its MoT. It failed due to headlight alignment.
Among many gripes I've got about that experience, I decided to take a look at the video from the camera. They normally unplug it the first thing they do. Here's why.
On the video it shows the driver doing 40mph for some considerable distance in a 30mph zone, on a school day, and right by a school. There are several instances of the limit being broken by up to 10mph on the 5 minute journey.

So - what would you do?
Wait for the ticket then kick of and show your evidence.
 

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Wait for the ticket then kick of and show your evidence.
Kicked off already. The Principal and Service manager got a broadside salvo by email. If I don't hear anything by lunchtime it goes to Sytner Head office and JLR.
I might have calmed down a bit by then.
 

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E-mail acknowledged with a message to expect to get a call today.
Going to be a difficult day for a few people.
 

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E-mail acknowledged with a message to expect to get a call today.
Going to be a difficult day for a few people.
Are you going to be a pain in the arse Ian lol! =))
 

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Service manager called and was ready with plausible excuses for everything they missed. Conveniently NFF. They didn't look very hard.
Wants me to trek back there for them to check the discs. No excuse for the speeding. He wants the video to use for training. Worrying that you have to train drivers -again!
 
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