New M.O.T.

Stevo7682 said:
Yes Tony fail if on View attachment 80536 View attachment 80537ah Tony your going to love it :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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This &@&&@&@&&& ridiculous!

We have a Honda with an EML light on for years - emissions are spot on. Finding the cause of the light has been deemed not worth it by the garage as it points to lambda sensors. However there is NO issue with the ACTUAL Emmisions!

Mmmmm....I see a new Ebay business starting with ‘EML light function emulators’ to make a light come on and go off...
 
Dino D said:
This &@&&@&@&&& ridiculous!

We have a Honda with an EML light on for years - emissions are spot on. Finding the cause of the light has been deemed not worth it by the garage as it points to lambda sensors. However there is NO issue with the ACTUAL Emmisions!

Mmmmm....I see a new Ebay business starting with ‘EML light function emulators’ to make a light come on and go off...
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Remove the bulb! Job done :thumbsup:
 
I think this will be a 'dodgy garage charter' to make money whilst holding cars and owners to ransom.

why should I pay some unscrupulous garage a stupid amount, to do what I can for a fraction of the cost.

Need to check everything before it goes in, from now onwards.
No point seeing a rusty brake pipe and wondering if it will be an advisory, @g8jka , they will have to be changed, before a garage wants £800 to let you have your car back because their description is 'dangerous'.

Its a good thing in one respect, but as usual some garages will be rubbing their hands together.
I hope the appeal process is quick if their is a dispute and the garage wont let you have your car back.
I feel sorry for those with no mechanical knowledge, that will all of a sudden be expected to pay
 
@gookah I would agree with a lot of what you are saying but it's not the garage that categorised the fail dvsa to blame for that .
A welded wheel last week advisory this week a dangerous.
Tyre below limit dangerous bulge in tyre only a major .
What I would like to say is that no garage has a legal right to hold your car if a dangerous fail issued but If the customer then chooses to drive it away it is a criminal offence but the garage can't stop you .

Personally I think a lot of people won't be too amused with the new rules.
 
Pingu said:
Time to buy some spare alloys.
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There could be a new market place in 2nd hand alloys .
The only way a cracked wheel will pass is if it is an invisible repair.
ie. Welded then all flattened down and wheel re powder coated so the repair cannot be seen.
 
Dino D said:
This &@&&@&@&&& ridiculous!

We have a Honda with an EML light on for years - emissions are spot on. Finding the cause of the light has been deemed not worth it by the garage as it points to lambda sensors. However there is NO issue with the ACTUAL Emmisions!

Mmmmm....I see a new Ebay business starting with ‘EML light function emulators’ to make a light come on and go off...
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I can only agree Dino, I have tested many cars which have passed the emission test while the EML was on. The emission test actually tests what is coming out of the tail pipe. WTF!
Anyway chaps, don't forget we have the EU to thank for all of this BS not the DVSA.
I remember @FRANKIE saying that where he lives they only check that the EML has not been on in the the previous 2? years, they don't even test what comes out of the tailpipe. The emission test is therefore carried out by the code reader.

Tony.
 
When MoT centres are clogged up with cars that have failed that they can no longer trade, I’m sure some pragmatism will come into play.

Do the likes of the RAC specifically exclude recovery from MoT failure? They will recover if your car is unroadworthy, which it is after a failure.
 
Stevo7682 said:
@gookah I would agree with a lot of what you are saying but it's not the garage that categorised the fail dvsa to blame for that .
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appreciate it's not the garages that have changed the rules, it's the DVSA, but will unscrupulous garages now 'upgrade' defects to the 'dangerous' classification, as a way of getting the work that otherwise a fail may have seen the car taken away and repaired elsewhere.
Your little old lady pensioner will have no idea what the difference is, and her son can't get to fix it anymore, so she has to pay whatever to get her car back.
Also the garage will now determine the price of the parts, and place their markup on items that you could shop around for previously.
 
I Take my cars to a mechanic who does a pre test check & then gets it mot'd or does the repair first
 
gookah said:
appreciate it's not the garages that have changed the rules, it's the DVSA, but will unscrupulous garages now 'upgrade' defects to the 'dangerous' classification, as a way of getting the work that otherwise a fail may have seen the car taken away and repaired elsewhere.
Your little old lady pensioner will have no idea what the difference is, and her son can't get to fix it anymore, so she has to pay whatever to get her car back.
Also the garage will now determine the price of the parts, and place their markup on items that you could shop around for previously.
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If , for example your car needed an O/S/F spring you could always take your own and ask them to fit it.

Tony.

ps. I can't see garages turning as bad as you think Pete because eventually customers vote with their feet mate and in the motor trade a bad name spreads much, much quicker than a good one.Tony
 
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mot-changes-20-may-2018

I haven't read all of this thread so apologies if this link has already been posted. The way I see it, it's the difference between "Dangerous" and "Major" defects are going to be the main causes of contention and whether or not you would be allowed to repair your car yourself.

Will the garage have to call the police if you drive your car away?
 
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Just feel for the drivers that don’t know anything about their cars,at least most of us know if our cars are likely to fail so sort it before hand. Obviously there’s areas we can’t see as well as the testers but I always go to the viewing area while it’s being tested and expect to be shown any faults there and then, reckon it would be hard to get one over on most of us. No viewing area then wouldn’t take it there. Our Fiat is in tomorrow 0830 for its first MOT.
Worried????? No point in worrying before the event, might just have heart attack befor the best outcome.
Just tonight had the low tyre pressure light come on so checked all tyre pressures with two different gauges and they’re fine, couldn’t get the light to go out so we’ll see what they say in the morning.

Rha, Roy.
 
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Stevo7682 said:
All mot sites have to have a viewing area it's a site requirement.
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Yeah, you can see your car on the ramp but you can't see any detail. I'd love to be under the car with the inspector
 
gookah said:
No point seeing a rusty brake pipe and wondering if it will be an advisory, @g8jka , they will have to be changed, before a garage wants £800 to let you have your car back because their description is 'dangerous'.
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I know they need changing, they will be done when I change the front calipers. Did you not see me come round to yours earlier on a push bike with flat tyres, all because I decided to refresh the paint of the front caliper brackets and needed the wire brush :mad: So I have actually made a start.

A garage surely wouldn't be able to keep hold of your car if it fails, it just means now you have no MOT to take it away to do the work or get it done elsewhere. This works in favour of the garage as they are more likely to get the work, whereas before if the current MOT hadn't expired it could technically be taken away and still used. People are more likely to have the work done there and as soon as possible or they are without a car.

If there is any doubt that a car may fail, there is no point in taking it in a couple of weeks early for MOT. If it was to fail then you are left without it, you may as well use it up until the expiry date and take the chance then. Before you could get away with them couple of weeks on the current MOT and have that time to still use the car and shop around for parts or a place to repair.
 
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