KEYS ?

[FRANKIE]

Might be but I just think Zed needs to clarify exactly. I know they measure horses using hands, is he alluding to that or ????

Yep! Now you're cooken'.

 

[FRANKIE]

Hi, not sure if this is the right thread to ask im still finding my way around forum. Local stlrship charged me £140 for new key as their initial diagnosis was that this was the reason my remote locking doesnt work. Next they charged me £80 to tell me they have checked the mirror where the ir receiver is and all the rest and concluded that GMIV unit is at fault, quoting the other side of £500. I managed to buy the general module with exact same numbers. Remote locking still does not work once i have pluged it in. No, i have gone trough the key programming procedure ie turning ignition, holding unlock and pressing 3x lock. The key blinks as it should but it still will not operate remote locking. Im hoping for some help before the garages charge the fortune with no guarantee of resolving it. Do i need to program the second hand gm iv into car? Central locking and everything else operated by gm works a treat of the replacement unit just not the remote locking. My z3 is 1998 1.9 16v jap import. Not sure what else i can do. I was guaranteed the second hand gmiv as working and checked so before i suspect this i would like to try and see what else i can do.

Paul, Since you started this thread, I'm not really sure where you are with this. There are so many comments about other member's problems with keys and what they had to go through, one can see that keys are a common problem among many members. I thought that perhaps if you restated your original problem, what progress you've made and what problems still exist, all of us could concentrate on helping you solve your problem, as since, that is the initial reason you came to us.
If all of us get back on track and concentrate on working on this problem to get it solved, a great deal of progress will be made towards its resolution. I would hate to have you come to us for help, and collectively, we weren't able to get anything concrete resolved. Maybe I didn't read all of the responses correctly and the problem is solved, but if not, lets have a crack at it again, that we may work solely on YOUR problem, and get it finally resolved. Frankie

 

[Paul_soton]

Paul, Since you started this thread, I'm not really sure where you are with this. There are so many comments about other member's problems with keys and what they had to go through, one can see that keys are a common problem among many members. I thought that perhaps if you restated your original problem, what progress you've made and what problems still exist, all of us could concentrate on helping you solve your problem, as since, that is the initial reason you came to us.
If all of us get back on track and concentrate on working on this problem to get it solved, a great deal of progress will be made towards its resolution. I would hate to have you come to us for help, and collectively, we weren't able to get anything concrete resolved. Maybe I didn't read all of the responses correctly and the problem is solved, but if not, lets have a crack at it again, that we may work solely on YOUR problem, and get it finally resolved. Frankie

1. Passanger door would not lock with the key
2. Changed accutator and lock assembly
3. Got it working
4. Remote still did not work
5. Bought a wrong mirror 8213046, mines 8193884 (still do not know if works as no replacement as of yet and no way to test ir receiver, in contact with quarry motors)
6. Changed both door latches as interior light was flicking and could couse the problem (light sorted)
7. Key operates locks unlockes all doors and boot (petrol cap is on key and not operated by central locking)
8. Suspected GMIV (now changed, codes earsed, not throwing any, previously was showing 0013 pin contact pass door open circuit, 0011 pin contact, driv door open circ, 0015 pin, boot lid open circ (148) 94 interface immobiliser (1 fault ewa control unit))
9. Suspected remote, ordered new now tested green light on ir tester flickers, key sends signal)
10. GMIV changed codes erased, not throwing any codes
11. Programming procedures done by me and 3 garages (noone checked for initialization lock)
12. All i can think of now is to source correct ir mirror or somehow test this one and check for cancel initialization lock
13. Siren still not working and not tested anything yet not sure if matters
14. Not shortened any connections betwing gm4 and mirror as not sure what how to check continuity

Its horrible to be taken for a ride with garages thats why i want to resolve it methodically with help

As spent enough money already to buy below, decided to cut the losses and buy the equipment and software

Sourced ibm t30 with dis and inpa together with ads 20 pin to go into rs232 on thinkpad to try and resolve and have for future

Its the first old car im on a mission to restore her to original condition as really do love this car. And its a first beemer if we not counting the mini


So here we are, hope it makes sense

And ive only had her for few weeks thanks guys

 

[zedonist]

Yep! Now you're cooken'.

See post #54

 

[zedonist]

Paul, it's the advice from other popular Z3 site that is providing work for the garages........we prefer to diagnose rather than speculate.......(read wild guess)

 

[Paul_soton]

Its not something you wanna tell yout customers especially as ive found them on a forum lol. Mind you the first programming of abs asc they did was spot on and today did not charge me but still you see what i mean. Good guys tho but when you stop and think it does make u wonder

 

[zedonist]

It does because a lot of them read the code, and tell you it's the dearest option that needs fixing, rather than fault find from the code, all fault codes do is tell you which sensor found it, if you get two fault codes it narrows the area down, the only one I know that is 95% the sensor! is the cam sensor fault! but even then I would go through the diagnosis loop just in case.

 

[Paul_soton]

It does because a lot of them read the code, and tell you it's the dearest option that needs fixing, rather than fault find from the code, all fault codes do is tell you which sensor found it, if you get two fault codes it narrows the area down, the only one I know that is 95% the sensor! is the cam sensor fault! but even then I would go through the diagnosis loop just in case.

Fair point. Btw camsensor is getting changed too

 

[FRANKIE]

1. Passanger door would not lock with the key
2. Changed accutator and lock assembly
3. Got it working
4. Remote still did not work
5. Bought a wrong mirror 8213046, mines 8193884 (still do not know if works as no replacement as of yet and no way to test ir receiver, in contact with quarry motors)
6. Changed both door latches as interior light was flicking and could couse the problem (light sorted)
7. Key operates locks unlockes all doors and boot (petrol cap is on key and not operated by central locking)
8. Suspected GMIV (now changed, codes earsed, not throwing any, previously was showing 0013 pin contact pass door open circuit, 0011 pin contact, driv door open circ, 0015 pin, boot lid open circ (148) 94 interface immobiliser (1 fault ewa control unit))
9. Suspected remote, ordered new now tested green light on ir tester flickers, key sends signal)
10. GMIV changed codes erased, not throwing any codes
11. Programming procedures done by me and 3 garages (noone checked for initialization lock)
12. All i can think of now is to source correct ir mirror or somehow test this one and check for cancel initialization lock
13. Siren still not working and not tested anything yet not sure if matters
14. Not shortened any connections betwing gm4 and mirror as not sure what how to check continuity

Its horrible to be taken for a ride with garages thats why i want to resolve it methodically with help

As spent enough money already to buy below, decided to cut the losses and buy the equipment and software

Sourced ibm t30 with dis and inpa together with ads 20 pin to go into rs232 on thinkpad to try and resolve and have for future

Its the first old car im on a mission to restore her to original condition as really do love this car. And its a first beemer if we not counting the mini


So here we are, hope it makes sense

And ive only had her for few weeks thanks guys

Tomorrow, I want to get back to you on what you've said in this post. I'm a bit confused on a few things. For now, take a look at this:

http://www.bmwgm5.com/GM4.htm

Frankie

 

[FRANKIE]

1. Passanger door would not lock with the key
2. Changed accutator and lock assembly
3. Got it working
4. Remote still did not work
5. Bought a wrong mirror 8213046, mines 8193884 (still do not know if works as no replacement as of yet and no way to test ir receiver, in contact with quarry motors)
6. Changed both door latches as interior light was flicking and could couse the problem (light sorted)
7. Key operates locks unlockes all doors and boot (petrol cap is on key and not operated by central locking)
8. Suspected GMIV (now changed, codes earsed, not throwing any, previously was showing 0013 pin contact pass door open circuit, 0011 pin contact, driv door open circ, 0015 pin, boot lid open circ (148) 94 interface immobiliser (1 fault ewa control unit))
9. Suspected remote, ordered new now tested green light on ir tester flickers, key sends signal)
10. GMIV changed codes erased, not throwing any codes
11. Programming procedures done by me and 3 garages (noone checked for initialization lock)
12. All i can think of now is to source correct ir mirror or somehow test this one and check for cancel initialization lock
13. Siren still not working and not tested anything yet not sure if matters
14. Not shortened any connections betwing gm4 and mirror as not sure what how to check continuity

Its horrible to be taken for a ride with garages thats why i want to resolve it methodically with help

As spent enough money already to buy below, decided to cut the losses and buy the equipment and software

Sourced ibm t30 with dis and inpa together with ads 20 pin to go into rs232 on thinkpad to try and resolve and have for future

Its the first old car im on a mission to restore her to original condition as really do love this car. And its a first beemer if we not counting the mini


So here we are, hope it makes sense

And ive only had her for few weeks thanks guys

Also, I don't seem to get the correlation between the mirror and the keys, if there is any at all. Are you just stating another problem you are running into? Also, I don't understand the letters "ir". I know you're not talking about Conjugat Ir in every Spanish verb tense including preterite, imperfect, future, conditional, and subjunctive, or ir may refer to: Iridium ,or Ingersoll Rand, or International Rectifier, or Integrated Research. Perhaps it a shortcut for something an old guy doesn't know about. ( Font changed and I can't change it back) Is it a typing error? (Sometimes stupid) Frankie.

 

[hard top]

ir= infrared car alarm/locking/unlocking via the rear view mirror receiver.

 

[FRANKIE]

1. Passanger door would not lock with the key
2. Changed accutator and lock assembly
3. Got it working
4. Remote still did not work
5. Bought a wrong mirror 8213046, mines 8193884 (still do not know if works as no replacement as of yet and no way to test ir receiver, in contact with quarry motors)
6. Changed both door latches as interior light was flicking and could couse the problem (light sorted)
7. Key operates locks unlockes all doors and boot (petrol cap is on key and not operated by central locking)
8. Suspected GMIV (now changed, codes earsed, not throwing any, previously was showing 0013 pin contact pass door open circuit, 0011 pin contact, driv door open circ, 0015 pin, boot lid open circ (148) 94 interface immobiliser (1 fault ewa control unit))
9. Suspected remote, ordered new now tested green light on ir tester flickers, key sends signal)
10. GMIV changed codes erased, not throwing any codes
11. Programming procedures done by me and 3 garages (noone checked for initialization lock)
12. All i can think of now is to source correct ir mirror or somehow test this one and check for cancel initialization lock
13. Siren still not working and not tested anything yet not sure if matters
14. Not shortened any connections betwing gm4 and mirror as not sure what how to check continuity

Its horrible to be taken for a ride with garages thats why i want to resolve it methodically with help

As spent enough money already to buy below, decided to cut the losses and buy the equipment and software

Sourced ibm t30 with dis and inpa together with ads 20 pin to go into rs232 on thinkpad to try and resolve and have for future

Its the first old car im on a mission to restore her to original condition as really do love this car. And its a first beemer if we not counting the mini


So here we are, hope it makes sense

And ive only had her for few weeks thanks guys

There is also another thing that sends the red flags waving. Items such as lights flickering, and open door curcuits, and locks not opening and locking can all have one common fault that is just SCREAMING AT ME : bad ground (earth). I hope t-tony reads this and comments about it

 

[Paul_soton]

Also, I don't seem to get the correlation between the mirror and the keys, if there is any at all. Are you just stating another problem you are running into? Also, I don't understand the letters "ir". I know you're not talking about Conjugat Ir in every Spanish verb tense including preterite, imperfect, future, conditional, and subjunctive, or ir may refer to: Iridium ,or Ingersoll Rand, or International Rectifier, or Integrated Research. Perhaps it a shortcut for something an old guy doesn't know about. ( Font changed and I can't change it back) Is it a typing error? (Sometimes stupid) Frankie.

Infrared=ir interior mirror has ir receiver built in

 

[Paul_soton]

Tomorrow, I want to get back to you on what you've said in this post. I'm a bit confused on a few things. For now, take a look at this:

http://www.bmwgm5.com/GM4.htm

Frankie

Good link. Gmiv is 100% fine and tested now no fault codes either.

 

[Paul_soton]

There is also another thing that sends the red flags waving. Items such as lights flickering, and open door curcuits, and locks not opening and locking can all have one common fault that is just SCREAMING AT ME : bad ground (earth). I hope t-tony reads this and comments about it

Re earth no other electrical faults. And it really comes down to the key not getting programmed to ir receiver in the mirror and or broken receiver or initialization block imo but again not sure otherwise id b at it

 

[FRANKIE]

Infrared=ir interior mirror has ir receiver built in

My car is not equipped with that. I have no knowledge of it.Frankie

 

[Paul_soton]

My car is not equipped with that. I have no knowledge of it.Frankie

I think there were to options radio remote and infrared

 

[FRANKIE]

I think there were to options radio remote and infrared

I'm about to try and install a new zip in rear window in the Z3. Before I do, I'd first ask you if the only remaining issue with your problem is getting the right mirror so that you can use your key chain transmitter to open the car? Frankie

 

[oldcarman]

I'm about to try and install a new zip in rear window in the Z3. Before I do, I'd first ask you if the only remaining issue with your problem is getting the right mirror so that you can use your key chain transmitter to open the car? Frankie

Way to go Frankie!! Tackle that window but don't forget to have an assistant. Good luck, I have faith in you! As for your seat in the 325i have you considered just buying a used bottom? I was patrolling eBay and there are a couple of ads. Maybe easier than adapting those others you bought although they sure look good. Just a thought! , JIM

 

[hard top]

have you considered just buying a used bottom?

Bad Boy lives to far away to help with the problem me thinks Jim.........