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mrscalex

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There's a consensus emerging here that I'd agree with. Concentrate on the structural work underneath that will cause an MOT fail or worse still a safety risk. Wings and sill covers are just to make the car look pretty unless sharp edges present a safety issue (MOT point). No point spending money on them until you know if underside is viable to repair.

But for info you may struggle to find a pair of rust free pre-facelift sills and may need to buy new. People seem to pay anywhere between £100 and £130 per side from the dealer. Maybe £150 the pair to have sprayed up from a decent back street spray shop. Looks like your front wing is going too. But you should be able to get a useable one in your colour for £30 ish.

The end of the sills, inside and out, haven't gone for no reason. They would have clogged up with silt from the road passing the gap in the wheel arch liner and will have rotted away over a period of years. Given that, you will be fortunate if the areas of decay are limited to those shown in the photos but that looks expensive enough to remedy. And watch out for brake/suspension component rust too - it may not be limited to bodywork.

You will have to see how far back they need to chase it to good metal and whether they can patch with sheet metal or require a donor section from a breaker.

I suspect this is going to be a test of how attached you are to the car as to whether it's really sensible to repair or not. How is the car otherwise? Is it mechanically good? Or does it need money spent there too?
 

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It's sad to see your Z like this @Theresa :p
Hope you can get it fixed :)
Good luck ;)
 

Theresa

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There's a consensus emerging here that I'd agree with. Concentrate on the structural work underneath that will cause an MOT fail or worse still a safety risk. Wings and sill covers are just to make the car look pretty unless sharp edges present a safety issue (MOT point). No point spending money on them until you know if underside is viable to repair.

But for info you may struggle to find a pair of rust free pre-facelift sills and may need to buy new. People seem to pay anywhere between £100 and £130 per side from the dealer. Maybe £150 the pair to have sprayed up from a decent back street spray shop. Looks like your front wing is going too. But you should be able to get a useable one in your colour for £30 ish.

The end of the sills, inside and out, haven't gone for no reason. They would have clogged up with silt from the road passing the gap in the wheel arch liner and will have rotted away over a period of years. Given that, you will be fortunate if the areas of decay are limited to those shown in the photos but that looks expensive enough to remedy. And watch out for brake/suspension component rust too - it may not be limited to bodywork.

You will have to see how far back they need to chase it to good metal and whether they can patch with sheet metal or require a donor section from a breaker.

I suspect this is going to be a test of how attached you are to the car as to whether it's really sensible to repair or not. How is the car otherwise? Is it mechanically good? Or does it need money spent there too?
Mechani
There's a consensus emerging here that I'd agree with. Concentrate on the structural work underneath that will cause an MOT fail or worse still a safety risk. Wings and sill covers are just to make the car look pretty unless sharp edges present a safety issue (MOT point). No point spending money on them until you know if underside is viable to repair.

But for info you may struggle to find a pair of rust free pre-facelift sills and may need to buy new. People seem to pay anywhere between £100 and £130 per side from the dealer. Maybe £150 the pair to have sprayed up from a decent back street spray shop. Looks like your front wing is going too. But you should be able to get a useable one in your colour for £30 ish.

The end of the sills, inside and out, haven't gone for no reason. They would have clogged up with silt from the road passing the gap in the wheel arch liner and will have rotted away over a period of years. Given that, you will be fortunate if the areas of decay are limited to those shown in the photos but that looks expensive enough to remedy. And watch out for brake/suspension component rust too - it may not be limited to bodywork.

You will have to see how far back they need to chase it to good metal and whether they can patch with sheet metal or require a donor section from a breaker.

I suspect this is going to be a test of how attached you are to the car as to whether it's really sensible to repair or not. How is the car otherwise? Is it mechanically good? Or does it need money spent there too?
MOT it only needs a new tyre and
And a brake hose mechanically ok I think
 

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Never seen one anywhere near that sort of corrosion. So unusual for a Zed.
My advice would be to listen to those that know. @Sean d does this work all day everyday and knows his stuff. @Stevo7682 and @t-tony are mot testers. For me it would be the end of the line, sell to @spurs fan in a coupe to recoup some money and put the money you are considering for repairs into a more solid car. There's plenty on here that would be more than happy to view a car in their area for you if you weren't local to it, myself included. Good luck with whatever you decide.
 

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Dont know enough about cars to add anything else ...BUT..what I can say is how fantastic that we have a forum with such fantastic people on it all willing to help in any way they can.....THIS REALLY IS THE PLACE TO BE - LONG MAY IT CONTINUE..
Good luck with whatever you decide
 

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Dont know enough about cars to add anything else ...BUT..what I can say is how fantastic that we have a forum with such fantastic people on it all willing to help in any way they can.....THIS REALLY IS THE PLACE TO BE - LONG MAY IT CONTINUE..
Good luck with whatever you decide
Really not sure what to do yet probably see what the garage say first and go from there but big thank you to everyone it is brilliant to be with such a great bunch of people all willing to help
 

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Hi Theresa, that's terrible news about your Z you have my sympathy. As someone who has in the past thrown good money after bad I would suggest to you that you spend no money on it until you have a very complete run down of the costs.

Then make the decision from there, if you can recoup some money from someone breaking your Z you might find that with that money + cost of repairs you might be able to get a replacement in better overall condition.

Hope either way you get something sorted and this incident does not dampen your enthusiasm for Z3's because as now being the owner of my 3rd Z I can promise you that if you find one that's been well looked after you will not find anything at the same money to beat it.
 

Tim beard

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Yes , round back of garage , if you want them would have to check them as they have been there two years now
 

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As you can see the first side not rusty when sill removed
These cars usually look far worse on the outside than they do under the skin Theresa, and these parts are not structural just cosmetic.

Tony.
 

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Hi Theresa I have some Atlanta blue pre facelift sills for a wide body 2.8 knocking about, but I don't what engine model yours is?
Jimmy.
 
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