Z3's going up in value?

One Spanner Frank

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Give yourselves a treat and put your registration on I Buy Any Car and see what they say it is worth. My low mileage Z3 2.8 auto is worth between £1000 and £1800. I know, it isn't what the car is worth, it is how it feels driving along with the top down etc. There is another way of looking at it. Add up the insurance, tax, servicing and petrol and see what it costs to run the car in £ per mile. They are very expensive cars to run and as they get older they will cost more to run. The value of Z3s may not increase, but the running cost certainly will. I will not be selling mine though.
 

Tracy Dee

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Aint that the truth guess thats why so many get broke for spares.
Sometimes it's really an uneconomic repair a call has to be made if the cars not increasing in value.
Garage bills can soon stack up.
 

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Yes but the fact is that many members on here carry out their own repairs making an otherwise uneconomical repair worthwhile and it's those cars that will eventually reap the rewards [IMO]
 

Tracy Dee

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Yes understand members repairing there own cars but if your not capable that's when it gets expensive.
 

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Decent cars should be 2-3k (i picked mine up for 2k)
Mint late model 3-5k

people trying to get 3k for cars that dont have everything working or that are far from mint are kidding themselves.

They are common, not hugely desirable (outside this forum etc) and getting a bit long in the tooth for people used to driving new cars.

they will appreciate but for the right models and the right spec.

personally i only think the 2.8 /3.0 will be worth anything in the future.
 

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I paid over the odds for mine but it was the 2.2 sport in black and had everything I was looking for, I could have brought another car and fitted the wheels and seats ect but I was impatient as much as anything else also it was quite close to home to go pick it up ect and I will in the next few months spend double what the cars worth on it but she's my baby ;)
 

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I looked at around a dozen at 2 k 2.5k all were let's just say not good I nearly gave up.The car I have now was the last one before I threw in the towel FSH 74k good all round in fact for 97 its pretty mint.
Mine was 2.4 k but still spent money on it.
There may be lots for 2 k but outside of here not great examples.
 

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I paid over the odds for mine but it was the 2.2 sport in black and had everything I was looking for, I could have brought another car and fitted the wheels and seats ect but I was impatient as much as anything else also it was quite close to home to go pick it up ect and I will in the next few months spend double what the cars worth on it but she's my baby ;)
Me to, and as you say, no other would do and 12 months later, living the dream :)
 

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I paid just under £2k for "the Pup". I probably paid just a little bit too much for it, but I wanted an early 6 cylinder and all the others were a full day and hundreds of miles to look at. This one I stumbled on in passing. Zero time, zero miles.

How much would I have saved or how much better car would I have got for the money had I spent days out and long trips viewing others?

Increasing value, I'm really not bothered.

However, my brother owns one of the last air cooled Porsche Carrera 2. The agreed insurance value has gone up by £10k per year for the last 2 years.
 

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Yes understand members repairing there own cars but if your not capable that's when it gets expensive.
But that's the whole point of being on here Tracy, if you want to repair your car, someone, somewhere is prepared to help, even if it means going without your car for a while.

Tony.
 

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But that's the whole point of being on here Tracy, if you want to repair your car, someone, somewhere is prepared to help, even if it means going without your car for a while.

Tony.
I know of a lovely little place in the back waters of the Lincolnshire fens next to a caravan sales on a bend next to some bollards and a pub and a bungalow! The name slips my mind but the owner is a lovely bloke! ;)
 

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The help you can receive on this forum is amazing... People are always willing to help be it by pointing you in the right direction or even offering a hand. Someone has normally come across the issue or has an idea.. I love it.. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

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Having just purchased a Z3 (pick it up tomorrow) and just joined this forum, I was reading through old threads and posts when I came across this one. It's not too old so I figured I will add my 2 cents worth.
Yes, I am pretty sure they will go up in value, and I am talking all the models. I have collected and rebuilt old motorbikes for some years now and there is a pattern as to what happens.

I will talk motorbikes here for now, as it's what I know. Firstly anything that is a little out of the ordinary or not run of the mill is usually the first choice. The top model is always the first to go up in value. Talking motorbikes from the 70's a Suzuki GT750, about 10 years ago you could buy one for peanuts. As people who remembered them from their youth decided mmmm I might buy one to restore it. (Men like to restore old bikes, myself included). There is a valid reason for restoring, firstly it's not such a huge outlay of cash in one chunk, in fact most of the time you can hide this cost from the wife and she will never know how much you paid. secondly you can have many many parcels arrive and as it's all in small chunks of money you can again hide the real cost from your wife.

But what happens is when someone decides they want an old bike, they will always go for their dream bike, usually the top of the range.(let's use a early 70's Suzuki GT750 as an example) Many men from the same period (same age) will look to the same bike because that was the bike that was out when they were in their teens, they fell in love with it then. So as demand increases, so does the price. But what happens then? Well, MR EXAMPLE decides he wants to re-live his youth and buy his dream bike. He looks at prices and nearly faints, he has missed the boat! he realises he cannot take that much money from the life savings without his wife knowing, so he decides to go for the next model down which is much cheaper, enter the Suzuki GT550! This cycle will carry on until the 550's are too expensive so eventually people will look to the next model down, enter the GT380.and so on and so forth down to the Suzuki AP50 moped, (which are worth a small fortune now, I might add)

I believe the same happens in the car world, the first choice will always be the M models, the DREAM models, but just as in the example, when the prices get too high, it will be the next model down, then the next etc.

So to some up, yes I believe all models of Z3 will go up in value eventually, it has all the right ingredients! The kids that fell in love with it when it was out will eventually want one, now they are a little older and the family is growing up, and they have more disposable income to purchase their dream car.

There is one thing though that I have said many times on classic motorbike forums though. Unless you have large pockets, don't buy or expect to run an old bike if you cannot do at least some work on it yourself. Keeping an old vehicle roadworthy requires a lot of time and patience, there will be a constant need for repair's. Cars are probably more so, as they rust a lot more, and there are a lot of dirty bits under a car.

There are advantages to old cars too though, I have just purchased mine, knowing that I can run it for a good few years (not a daily driver) and enjoy it, but if I decide to sell it say 5 years from now, with any luck I will be able to sell it for more than what I paid for it. With my daily driver, modern car I loose thousands of pounds every year, hell you loose a couple of grand as soon as you drive it off the forecourt!

P.S. trying not to be sexist, it could also read "hiding the true cost from you husband" lol
 
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A long but interesting first post Mike. It has been talked about many times on here. The general concensus is that the rarer models will improve but the mass produced will struggle for some years yet. Welcome to the forum, pop on to the "introduce yourself" thread and tell us a bit about yourself and let's see some pics of your Zed. :thumbsup:
 

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Lol yes I already posted in the "introduce yourself " section. Sorry for the long post, but yes basically that is what I was saying, the M models and rare models first, followed eventually by everything else when people realise they can't afford an M because they have missed the boat.

I have missed the boat already lol
 

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I know of a lovely little place in the back waters of the Lincolnshire fens next to a caravan sales on a bend next to some bollards and a pub and a bungalow! The name slips my mind but the owner is a lovely bloke! ;)
He' always on holiday though! Never there =))
Seriously - expensive repairs have to be put in to context. Just saying uneconomic because it's a great chunk of the cars value doesn't convey the reason why we have them, especially if it's not your daily driver. Cars are money pits. At times they will bite you. Replacing them may not get you back to the same place - occasionally it costs to keep the memories alive.
 

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Lol yes I already posted in the "introduce yourself " section. Sorry for the long post, but yes basically that is what I was saying, the M models and rare models first, followed eventually by everything else when people realise they can't afford an M because they have missed the boat.

I have missed the boat already lol
You're right about bikes and restoration. Guy over the road does that with triumphs. Costs lots in small bits but never makes a pile from them. But, that isn't why he does it.
I didn't want the ///M but did get my 3.0SI and hopefully paid the market rate. Do I expect to make anything if I sell it? Of course I'd like to , but, I've driven it 5k over the winter - and it's not my daily driver. It's going to get used. It won't keep or increase its value I expect.
Buying to accumulate as an individual is a lottery. Only the pros would expect to win out over the long haul.
 

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I have to agree about uneconomical repairs if a lesser model has a catastrophic disaster mechanically for someone who is not capable of carrying out there own repairs garage costs mount up a call has to be made.
Although my cars pretty good condition it's not worth much more than 3 k even with a full service history and file circa 75 k left outside used regular car.
We could have bought an M model but not what we wanted as we have other cars we wanted something cheap to run on fuel insurance and can be left in car parks ect without drawing to much attention.
As a 1.9 model it can get overlooked at car shows and out and about by the bigger more exotic models but thats the case with all makes.
 
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