A strange thing I found, many, many moons ago, was when we used to clean our drilling equipment (wearing rubber gloves) with diesel, it used to freeze your fingers off...!!
Not like today's (environmentally friendly?) degreaser's.
VW emissions fallout.
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Not like today's (environmentally friendly?) degreaser's.
We used to chuck our old rubber gloves into the degreaser and watch them expand to gargantuan proportions. Mind you - Trichloroethylene was pretty horrible stuff but less of a concern than the acids and cyanide that could kill you in twenty seconds
The glove trick made it worth while.
When I was with Schlumberger fracking was/is done using a mixture of hydrochloric (HCl) and hydrofluoric acid (HF) AKA Mud Acid.
Put this stuff in a glass jar and it melts it.....
We could not get it in the Netherlands so got it from Germany transported in special tanker trucks.
One time, out in the field, saw a guy get really badly burnt with this stuff, we chucked him under one of the portable showers we had on site exactly for this reason when using the stuff.
Loading up one of our stimulation boats one time and a hose connection was leaking, the dead fish soon came to the surface.
Yes folks, this stuff gets pumped into the ground and could, in theory, get in the water supply.
Now that Redline is what I call a proper HSE e.mail......
@hard top When I was in school I worked a summer job in a metal workshop and we used TCE vapours to degrease cabinets. Every day was a new high and was the most enjoyable job I ever had!! Even offered to work seven days a week,and not just for the extra cash!! Couldn't wait for next school break so I could get back at it!! JIM
It puts into perspective how dangerous some workplaces are, yet, some people are molly-coddled so much that they are protected from their own stupidity in the safest of environments.When I was with Schlumberger fracking was/is done using a mixture of hydrochloric (HCl) and hydrofluoric acid (HF) AKA Mud Acid.
Put this stuff in a glass jar and it melts it.....
We could not get it in the Netherlands so got it from Germany transported in special tanker trucks.
One time, out in the field, saw a guy get really badly burnt with this stuff, we chucked him under one of the portable showers we had on site exactly for this reason when using the stuff.
Loading up one of our stimulation boats one time and a hose connection was leaking, the dead fish soon came to the surface.
Yes folks, this stuff gets pumped into the ground and could, in theory, get in the water supply.
Now that Redline is what I call a proper HSE e.mail......
Hi, completely agree VW should compensate everyone equally if they have one of the effected cars.
Rather sadly in the world we live in mistakes & cockups seem to be rewarded(Bankers for one) & now VW about to become the biggest car manafacture in the world, overtaking Toyota, all down to increased sales. I personally will never ever buy another VAG car.
I will never buy another diesel engine VAG car Howard.
The latest news is that this mess is now being focussed on French cars, Renault and the PSA group including DS cars.
Tony.
Like I said early on that this would spread to all manufacturers. You get what you measure. To get the best results the engine management systems will arrange the performance. It will spread to petrol engines too.
Hi Tony, they all seem to be contaminated with this cheating on there emissions. We drive a Mazda CX-5 D, so far no scandal yet, maybe it's a matter of time!
Why all Manufacturers can't state a true mpg guide is beyond me. Worst car iv owned so far was the Audi A1,
sursposed to be 70ish mpg, in reality 45mpg, even borrowed another car from a dealer & that was even worse?
H
I think this is the only area, for now anyway, where petrol cars might get drawn into this mess Howard.
Tony.
So the outcome of the visit to the dealer today was, I need a new EGR Valve! That will be £1400.00 Sir
.... however before I had a chance to say anything VW would cover the cost of the part 100% and 90% of the labour. Luckily the car is still under an extended warranty so no cost at all
I changed one of those things last year on a Caddy van. Water cooled EGR, what a bi*** of a job, just another reason I want out of this job. NO fun anymore.
Tony.
Tony.
So I was talking to a colleague in the office yesterday, she has a 2011 Audi Diesel and is having problems with it after the software update, It turns out that her car now has the same fault as mine, faulty EGR valve. The dealer in question wanted £1300.00 to fix however if she had the car serviced with them at a cost of £136.00 then they could fit the new the new EGR valve FOC as a good will gesture!
If you are thinking of having your software updated on your VW/Audi/Skoda etc. and your car is out of warranty I think it is worth having the discussion with the dealer prior to the work being carried that they will cover any fault that will arise as a result of the software update.
If you are thinking of having your software updated on your VW/Audi/Skoda etc. and your car is out of warranty I think it is worth having the discussion with the dealer prior to the work being carried that they will cover any fault that will arise as a result of the software update.
The manufacturer can't have it both ways. Either the EGR valve isn't faulty and the software is throwing an error, or, if it is faulty, the the old software was also faulty for not reporting it and its likely it was faulty well before the update, and potentially should have been changed under warranty.
I would want to know which it is.
I would agree Ian, but the fact is you will never know the answer. And quite how they can lose £1300 EGR repair for the price of a £136 service is totally beyond me?
Tony.
Tony.
They don't there's clearly some agreement with VW to allow that.
Hi, unfortunately EGR valves have problems on many different makes but all the VAG group suffer more than other marqués. Normally they are replaced under warranty but there are certain models that if you do a lot of stop start they will bring on the emission light, this will mean a visit to the dealer for a regeneration which they will only do so many times under warranty and then the replacement of the valve. If you do lots of motorway work they are normally fine.
The car in question was 6 years old so 3 years out of warranty so the garage acted very fairly as they didn't have to offer this work at that price.
H
The car in question was 6 years old so 3 years out of warranty so the garage acted very fairly as they didn't have to offer this work at that price.
H
Agree @t-tony, I think in this case the dealer were holding the customer to ransom a little, I bet they knew that they would get 100% parts and labour covered but just wanted to drum up business.
Another nail...?
Westminster council have just said they intend to charge an extra £2/hr for Diesel engined cars.
Won't affect many of us at all at this stage, but, I'm sure it will spread. Going to be interesting to see how they enforce it.
Westminster council have just said they intend to charge an extra £2/hr for Diesel engined cars.
Won't affect many of us at all at this stage, but, I'm sure it will spread. Going to be interesting to see how they enforce it.
Good job I'm several hours from Westminster. All jumping on the "let's all fleece Diesel drivers" bandwagon! Shocking