Roof not quite opening, stuck on roll hoop

id101

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Ok update, it got a little further today

I had to help it fold at the microswitch bit previously mentioned which meant it went further down. To be honest it's as if the whole is in the wrong place
 

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Doesn’t look right to me
Looking at other pics on other cars the beam that gets stuck looks too far forward. when collapsed it looks like it is as far as it'll go and again too far forward. Equally when you shut it again it doesn't quite reach and needs pulling into its holes before clamping in place.
 

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Something for you to compare with...Something is not quite right..but it could be the picture angle..
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Doesn’t look right to me
It obviously isn’t right, as you say. It would be impossible to fit a tonneau cover with the roof folded that way.

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Got it a little further. Have to help it at half way the microswitch bit. Got some more pics and a vid. It doesn't want to go into the car as far.
 

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Where the first gif ends I have to give it a hand and it snaps into place for l the next part.
 

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Where the first gif ends I have to give it a hand and it snaps into place for l the next part.
have you tried opening and closing with the pump disengaged ?, in manual overide.
 

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You do usually have to pull it that last bit to close..that’s normal. Do the little spikes line up with the holes ok, if not then likely a bent frame
 

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Not yet no, as I don't know how to disengage! :)
The micro switch tells the pump when to stop and when it can start, there is a valve on the pump that allows hydraulic fluid to move without the pump working due to a malfunctioning micro switch. trying to move the roof manually against the hydraulics is a no go..At least if you eliminate this as a problem, you are a step further towards the solution... further more you should be able to "feel" the mechanism, to identify any issues, including bent hoops..
 
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Got it a little further. Have to help it at half way the microswitch bit. Got some more pics and a vid. It doesn't want to go into the car as far.
are you lifting the front lip at the beginning of the process, not just halfway through? It has to remain lifted from the beginning all the way to the end.
 

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You do usually have to pull it that last bit to close..that’s normal. Do the little spikes line up with the holes ok, if not then likely a bent frame
It's quite tight but with some strength they go in, then clamped up.
 

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are you lifting the front lip at the beginning of the process, not just halfway through? It has to remain lifted from the beginning all the way to the end.
I followed the same procedure as my previous z3 unclamp, lift a little, motor pick up slack and folds down. What's happening here is motor kicks in earlier and then folds back but doesn't bend at the mid point where I have to help it where it snaps into position and will then carry on. Then it doesn't go any further than in the pics.
 

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The micro switch tells the pump when to stop and when it can start, there is a valve on the pump that allows hydraulic fluid to move without the pump working due to a malfunctioning micro switch. trying to move the roof manually against the hydraulics is a no go..At least if you eliminate this as a problem, you are a step further towards the solution... further more you should be able to "feel" the mechanism, to identify any issues, including bent hoops..
I'll have to try this again next weeknd. As in between jobs I've just fixed the bonnet not staying closed (gunked spring clips) and now the bonnet release cable has snapped!

I don't know why I do it to myself!! ;)
 

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I'll have to try this again next weeknd. As in between jobs I've just fixed the bonnet not staying closed (gunked spring clips) and now the bonnet release cable has snapped!

I don't know why I do it to myself!! ;)
Niether do I, I,m supposed to be retired, and would much prefer just driving it...:thumbsup:. but look for a little "T" handle on the pump, If it's the same as mine, if its open the hydraulics are negated and you can manually figure out what is goosed... I figured this out myself after my brake switch failed, and used the roof manually for a while...
 
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Is the circled in the attached image the T handle?
That,s the puppy,,,:thumbsup:. Back it off a bit, and it lets the fluid bypass the pump, for manual operation..But don't forget that you have after you have dognosed the issue/s, because obviously the thing won't work with the valve open...
 
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