F1 Zorg Fantasy F1 2021 Season.

[andyglym]

Pos	League Rank	Team	Manager	Pts
1	7 3	Tomo77	Rob Thompson	189
2	8 0	Multi 21 Seb	Niall Penny	154
3	9 2	Mint Racing	Mint	147
4	4 1	Team Zedster	Keith	143
5	1 0	Grumps Racing	Dave	127
6	12 0	Donnylad	Monty	120
7	6 0	Waterlooville Back Runners	natrolite	117
8	13 0	Forest GP	NotZed	114
9	5 1	Team Westfield	Andy	112
10	2 0	The Scottish Sizzlers	Fraser	107
11	3 0	Team Smiffy	Smiffy	102
12	11 0	jagerint	Mike	90
13	10 1	Jeslouca Racing	Jess	81
14	14 0	Its Broken	Bringit 96	74

 

[andyglym]

Fantasy F1 Stewards contacted. 112 points for 1, pole and fastest lap I've been done Gov. Points are correct but I've gone all Red Bull

 

[Nodzed]

Aston let me down for a clean sweep on the predictions

 

[andyglym]

Aston let me down for a clean sweep on the predictions

Traumatised mate, I've gone all "Karen Horner" and demand a restart

 

[t-tony]

Total disrespect from Verstappen for walking off the podium after the presentation. I can’t remember ever seeing that before, typical of Red Bull, Horner and Marko. CHILDISH BEHAVIOUR.

Tony.

 

[andyglym]

FIA give Max a 10 second penalty for being predominantly at fault for the Max/Lewis shunt. 2 points on his Super License, no change in result. A 2.4 g deceleration (excessive/erratic braking).

 

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FIA give Max a 10 second penalty for being predominantly at fault for the Max/Lewis shunt. 2 points on his Super License, no change in result. A 2.4 g deceleration (excessive/erratic braking).

Quite right too. Max was a bloody lunatic, he is very entertaining but he needs to calm down a bit, imagine if he raced against old Nige, he would have slapped him around for driving like that.

 

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Is it just me or does anyone else think that circuit is just a bit dangerous??

 

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'Erratic' driving earns Max Verstappen an extra 10-second penalty in Saudi Arabia

Max Verstappen received an extra 10-second penalty from the stewards for "erratic" driving while trying to let Lewis Hamilton past in Jeddah.

www.planetf1.com

 

[andyglym]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that circuit is just a bit dangerous??

It's mental mate! I thought I was going to be late for work today there were that many Red Flags, Safety Cars and VSCs

 

[smiffy]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that circuit is just a bit dangerous??

it's not just you, even watching the Free Practice sessions, I just thought from the in car footage, the speed combined with all the blind corners was unnerving. In the race, even more so, particularly when following another car.

I only watched the highlights on 4 and I found myself unsure if I enjoyed it at the end, regardless of the controversy.

I'll admit I want Max to win, not because I'm a fan, but because I'm tired of the Mercedes technical domination and Toto's excessive control in the sport. But it just feels like Max is driving in desperation, to make up for a technical disadvantage, he's taking chances because he has to, not because he wants to. A weekend of identical cars on an unknown circuit would be really interesting. Actually, I just want someone else to win, any one will do!

The braking incident? Well, the stewards found "the driver of Car 33 was predominantly at fault", predominantly, not solely. I understand Max's logic and method, if Lewis had been aware the place swap was imminent, he'd have been expecting something and it wouldn't have happened. The real failure was in Lewis not receiving comms and who's fault that was, is a different argument. 10 seconds made no difference to the result. Stewards just had to be seen to do something. The question is, if Lewis had been aware of what Max was doing, would he have braked as well, to avoid passing and losing the DRS?

Safety cars and Red flags add unnecessary risk to the race itself, bunching up the pack and restarts so often cause issues and change the outcome of the race, particularly on a circuit like this, as this weekend demonstrated.

But, roll on next week!

 

[andyglym]

it's not just you, even watching the Free Practice sessions, I just thought from the in car footage, the speed combined with all the blind corners was unnerving. In the race, even more so, particularly when following another car.

I only watched the highlights on 4 and I found myself unsure if I enjoyed it at the end, regardless of the controversy.

I'll admit I want Max to win, not because I'm a fan, but because I'm tired of the Mercedes technical domination and Toto's excessive control in the sport. But it just feels like Max is driving in desperation, to make up for a technical disadvantage, he's taking chances because he has to, not because he wants to. A weekend of identical cars on an unknown circuit would be really interesting. Actually, I just want someone else to win, any one will do!

The braking incident? Well, the stewards found "the driver of Car 33 was predominantly at fault", predominantly, not solely. I understand Max's logic and method, if Lewis had been aware the place swap was imminent, he'd have been expecting something and it wouldn't have happened. The real failure was in Lewis not receiving comms and who's fault that was, is a different argument. 10 seconds made no difference to the result. Stewards just had to be seen to do something. The question is, if Lewis had been aware of what Max was doing, would he have braked as well, to avoid passing and losing the DRS?

Safety cars and Red flags add unnecessary risk to the race itself, bunching up the pack and restarts so often cause issues and change the outcome of the race, particularly on a circuit like this, as this weekend demonstrated.

But, roll on next week!

Agreed on the lack or late comms to Lewis, it didn't help for sure. I think that if the car having to give way had DRS disengaged for that DRS zone only would resolve the slowing down issue, also stop allowing tyre changes when going from SC to Red Flag would help. Max has had the better car for circa 55/60% of the season and is desperate to beat Lewis before the new cars next year. If he fails to beat Lewis whilst he's still racing and only becomes champion after Lewis retires that stat will always be there. Makes for an interesting last race. Go Lewis

 

[Fraser]

In Maxz defence I will say that if Masi had the balls to penalise him for the pass off track at the 1st corner the whole race would’ve been different. Also if he was told to give the place back then it should be shown on screens round the circuit then there would be no doubt. Some soul searching needs to be put into rules before next season.

Tony.

I agree. Verstappen should have just been penalised for exceeding track limits and gaining an advantage at the first corner. 5 second penalty applied, simples. Michael Masi isn't there to negotiate a deal about the application of penalties, and that was his first mistake. The second mistake Masi made was not communicating the swap between Lewis and Max, leading to the impact between the 2 cars. Lewis knew nothing about the swap over, so a slowing Redbull in front of him would just look like a brake test. Masi should have made Mercedes aware of the intention to swap the cars before telling Redbull. When Max did let Lewis pass on the second attempt, that was legitimate, the whole of Lewis's car was past Max's, but Hamilton went wide into the corner and didn't cover the inside line. That should have been left at that for them to race properly from there. I don't understand why Max was given a 5 second penalty for conducting a ligitimate overtake, even if it was immediately after giving the lead to Lewis! To make things worse, Max then gave the lead back to Lewis which was obviously his own choice!
The only thing I got from this race was that the race director can't make a decision, the communication between the teams and the race control was laughable, and that Max felt obliged to let Lewis through in the end.
It's not the first time this year that Michael Masi has made some questionable decisions. I feel sorry for both drivers and both teams and it was a very emotional race, for the wrong reasons.
The only upside for me in this race is that they are both on the same points, but Max will win if both cars crash in the last GP as he has more wins.
Farscial race with too much intervention for me. I just hope next weekend they are allowed to race and penalties are just applied based on the actions of the drivers, no negotiations etc! Is it bad of me to hope that Michael Masi will need to isolate next weekend???!!!

 

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[andyglym]

Aaaaaaand we're off. Max tops P1.

 

[Nodzed]

Michael Massi has pointed out a clause to everyone for this weekend that the stewards and race director can deduct championship points if they believe untoward, unsportsmanlike behavior has occurred. He's literally copied and pasted that regulation onto this weekends race notes to all teams and drivers.

 

[andyglym]

Michael Massi has pointed out a clause to everyone for this weekend that the stewards and race director can deduct championship points if they believe untoward, unsportsmanlike behavior has occurred. He's literally copied and pasted that regulation onto this weekends race notes to all teams and drivers.

No excuse for anybody then.

 

[Paul Rice]

It is a bit worrying that if Max takes both him and Lewis out he will be champion, Schumacher all over again. Lets hope Stewards have the balls to deduct points if this happens

 

[andyglym]

It is a bit worrying that if Max takes both him and Lewis out he will be champion, Schumacher all over again. Lets hope Stewards have the balls to deduct points if this happens

For sure Max will go for any type of gap if he's behind Lewis on the grid, let's hope for a clean but exciting race.

 

[andyglym]

Hamilton monsters P2