Why must we stay in EU

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today eu passed laws to say that from 2021 all cars must have GPS controlled speed limiters on cars to ensure car does not exceed the speed limit.
A few Years ago I accidentally set the speed limiter on my Ren Safrane , went to overtake a slower car ,and then the car refused to go any faster,I was lucky
Now eu want in mandatory , great way to increase accident rate.
 
My works van has a 62mph limiter on it. You just learn to drive to it.
 
today eu passed laws to say that from 2021 all cars must have GPS controlled speed limiters on cars to ensure car does not exceed the speed limit.
A few Years ago I accidentally set the speed limiter on my Ren Safrane , went to overtake a slower car ,and then the car refused to go any faster,I was lucky
Now eu want in mandatory , great way to increase accident rate.
Sick to death of EU law, I really thought we where going to get out but it appears that the politition have stolen it
 
My works van has a 62mph limiter on it. You just learn to drive to it.

Yes. But you know the van is limited to 62 it's a constant setting

Eu law limit is varying according to the speed limit at the location.
Today I was on a road that changes that often I actually set the car to show me the applicable speed limit.
Also if no revenue for speeding were will the money be recovered from.
 
GPS is not always accurate, nor are the databases that feed the speed setter.

Life could be quite interesting when every body just drives with their foot flat to the floor.

I look forward to driving through Glasgow and driving under the M8 or M74 :wideyed:.

Like so much, the theory is very good, but the what-ifs for the 1 in a 1000s have to be considered.


Good news = there will be no need for speed cameras, so those of us with pre-2021 cars can drive without having one eye on the horizon, and have both eyes on the danger zone.
 
It's just another step towards autonomous vehicles, the less we have control of the vehicle, the more we get used to the eventual changeover..

Besides we will all be long dead by then...
not autonomous vehicles.....

I mean leaving the EU.. =))





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today eu passed laws to say that from 2021 all cars must have GPS controlled speed limiters on cars to ensure car does not exceed the speed limit.

On new cars, I have no desire to own any new car.
 
I'm 62 in a few weeks and if I'm lucky I've may be got another 10yrs or so on this earth and I can categorically state I will never buy another new car so I'm not going to worry about this.
 
On new cars, I have no desire to own any new car.
I'm with you Mike. Much prefer the character of older cars so have no desire to own a new one. We've got a 62 focus and a 59 Kuga, Jues Kuga will be replaced every 3 years or so but my focus will stay till it drops. New cars unless you have big money are all the same and boring as hell.
 
This opens up a whole new world of pain for enforcement.
The technology relies on both gps and road sign recognition. Neither are infallible. (Some) Drivers will be tempted to rely on it entirely but, at times, it will be wrong - E.g. when you go past obscured road signs, overtake an hgv that has three different speed signs on the back, etc. It’s still down to the driver, but, if the system gets it wrong and won’t allow the driver to drive up towards the actual limit that will be equally as dangerous.
GPS is notorious for giving inaccurate location data in built up areas because of reflections of the signals from buildings. It can be out by 100m or more at times. And, it takes time to recover, eg when coming out of a multi-storey car park.
Some foil over the gps and tape over cameras will render the controls inoperable. Just because a car is fitted, where is the mandate to ensure it’s used? It’s still down to the driver to obey the speed limit.
And, who is going to test it’s operation? Going to make the MoT an interest time.
Ill thought out.

There are numerous reasons behind road deaths. Yes, often speed is a factor. But also, differential speed between vehicles causes many accidents. Speed and weight is a big killer to.
There is an argument for imposing a gradual restriction above the limit with a ceiling of maybe 20%. A hard limit will be dangerous at times.
 
I'm 62 in a few weeks and if I'm lucky I've may be got another 10yrs or so on this earth and I can categorically state I will never buy another new car so I'm not going to worry about this.
Jack I am 74 and sure that I wont:thumbsup: Geoff
 
I wonder how it would affect the sales of Porsche Ferrari etc if they can go no faster than a Dacia
 
Dear lord, I have the latest generation Golf GTE Hybrid and you need a degree to drive the darn thing, if it gets any worse!!!!!
 
If you look at the details it is not an actual limiter i.e. it cannot automatically apply the brakes to slow the car down.

"However, the new system as it's currently envisaged will not force drivers to slow down. It is there to encourage them to do so, and to make them aware of what the limit is, but it can be overridden. Much like the cruise control in many current cars will hold a particular speed, or prevent you exceeding it, until you stamp on the accelerator."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415
 
BA pilot's recently failed to check the flight path from London City Airport to Dusseldorf and ended up at Edinburgh airport .......

Hazel from Cambridge ........ 'Honey, pop out and get some milk please'

4 days later .......

'Any news on the milk?'

Rupert, married to Hazel ......... 'I'll be a while, I'm at boarder control at Kazakhstan'

It's all getting far to sterile for me :(
 
If you look at the details it is not an actual limiter i.e. it cannot automatically apply the brakes to slow the car down.

"However, the new system as it's currently envisaged will not force drivers to slow down. It is there to encourage them to do so, and to make them aware of what the limit is, but it can be overridden. Much like the cruise control in many current cars will hold a particular speed, or prevent you exceeding it, until you stamp on the accelerator."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415
So whats new here? My car (as do many ) has speed sign recognition, adaptive cruise control and lane control. I can in theory drive on long motorway journeys and never touch the brakes or throttle (do this regularly) and have minimum steering input it will literally drive around the curves on the motorway on its own as long as it feels my hand on the wheel though I am doing very little.
 
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