Whoopsy Daisy !!

1955Davidr said:
haven’t seen battleship grey T cut but am sure they’ll find some
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I've got some in my garage! Been sitting there for years. If the RN want to give me a shout, I will sell it to them at normal Government rates....ie cost plus 3000% ;)
 
I have an update from a man in the know....i.e.his mate was on the jetty. Turns out tugs pulled the Chiddingfold from the jetty and released it, leaving it under it's own power when there was a "mechanical failure" ahem...if you YouTube Chiddingfold hitting Bangor, there's a puff of diesel from the funnel when the engines were then put in gear..this was the Navigator setting the controls Forward...and it shot backwards... :whistle: :whistle:
 
the Nefyn cat said:
Oh, the other forwards. I've heard it can be confusing. Thank the lord Brittania no longer needs to rule the waves.:whistle:
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apparently...there had only recently been contractors working in the engine room.....apparently....allegedly....with no commiment or prejudice.... apparently.....
 
Strange how it is that "contractors" get brought in to save money and do jobs that proper trained engineers used to do and then things go wrong. Allegedly, your honour.
Slightly OT, I know, but I read recently that the Army now has civilian contractors to teach tank crews how to work tanks. WT actual F is going on? Still, nowadays the Army is only half the size it was when I was in (seventies) and spent all that time in Germany ready for the soviet army to come over the border. Luckily there are no war-hungry nutters in Moscow any more. Oh, hang on a minute..............
 
the Nefyn cat said:
Strange how it is that "contractors" get brought in to save money and do jobs that proper trained engineers used to do and then things go wrong. Allegedly, your honour.
Slightly OT, I know, but I read recently that the Army now has civilian contractors to teach tank crews how to work tanks. WT actual F is going on? Still, nowadays the Army is only half the size it was when I was in (seventies) and spent all that time in Germany ready for the soviet army to come over the border. Luckily there are no war-hungry nutters in Moscow any more. Oh, hang on a minute..............
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Maintenance is now outsourced as it's considered cheaper.....bring them in only when it breaks rather than have someone onboard all the time
 
Good luck with that when war breaks out and all of a sudden the civilians run away leaving nobody with any experience of fixing things around. In my years of tank mechanicing we didn't spend a lot of time sitting around doing nothing, big heavy complicated stuff breaks a lot even in peacetime.
 
the Nefyn cat said:
Good luck with that when war breaks out and all of a sudden the civilians run away leaving nobody with any experience of fixing things around. In my years of tank mechanicing we didn't spend a lot of time sitting around doing nothing, big heavy complicated stuff breaks a lot even in peacetime.
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mindset now is..."it's broke, raise an OPDEF and get the OEM in"... sadly
 
I work with former Major tank drivers (REME, or as I tease them Really Large Corps). We have large tier 1 contractors who bend us over and spank us, or try to. HM Treasury are beginning to understand using an SME supply chain costs tumble, work gets done right first time, no snagging, no variations, no bid low claim high mentality of the 60s, 1860's bully boy builders. Just takes an inordinate time for the penny to drop.
 
I have worked for both KBR and BAE Systems in the past; can guess what you mean!! ;)
 
the Nefyn cat said:
Good luck with that when war breaks out and all of a sudden the civilians run away leaving nobody with any experience of fixing things around. In my years of tank mechanicing we didn't spend a lot of time sitting around doing nothing, big heavy complicated stuff breaks a lot even in peacetime.
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Civilians. It's not a new thing. During your time in tanks in germany in the 70's your tank was probably often on the back of an Antar tank transporter driven by a civilian. (MCTG Mobile Civilian Transport Group.)
 
KASPar said:
I work with former Major tank drivers (REME, or as I tease them Really Large Corps).
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Various regiments drive / operate Cr2
REME drive / operate CrARRV.
RLC are the Tank Transporter Squadrons, and they carry the tanks to nearer the battle on HET (Heavy Equipment Transporter)

REME = Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers - Arte et Marte ("By Skill and By Fighting" or "Make Do and Mend" or "Improvise, Adapt and Overcome")
RLC = Royal Logistics Corp - this is the Really Large Corps and their cap badge is the crossed knife and fork :ymdevil:
 
Pingu said:
Various regiments drive / operate Cr2
REME drive / operate CrARRV.
RLC are the Tank Transporter Squadrons, and they carry the tanks to nearer the battle on HET (Heavy Equipment Transporter)

REME = Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers - Arte et Marte ("By Skill and By Fighting" or "Make Do and Mend" or "Improvise, Adapt and Overcome")
RLC = Royal Logistics Corp - this is the Really Large Corps and their cap badge is the crossed knife and fork :ymdevil:
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Unfortunately as that went 747, it appears. I'll explain.

Their rank was Major. 1 uses a chieftain as his avatar, the other his head and shoulders out of a chieftain hatch. Hence Major tank drivers
They were both REME ( I may have assessed their Professional Registration when they were at Arborfield). We josh they were in the RLC.

They take it in good grace.

Perhaps if they were Captains, we would call them fog (thick and wet) like the one that married Anne Windsor.
 
Pingu said:
9 ranks above me on my squaddy days, 1 rank below me on my civvy days (both in REME environments)

It made for interesting times. I was on first name terms with the brigadier on Friday and not allowed in the same building on Saturday :) .
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I always found the rank thing amusing.

My late father was a boy apprentice in the RAF. Got a BEM at 26 for Grapple, then took a commission. I received his posthumous Nuclear Test Medal last week.

My parents bought a house in the late 1950's when dad was a corporal. That was then a hiring for a Wing Commander whilst he was at Tengah. On return to the UK he couldn't get his house back straight away as it wasn't done to turf out an officer.

We moved into officers quarters for the only time and my dad use to get told off by the station commander for mum mixing with the junior ranks on the patch. She then took an office job in a different command on station that really wound up the SC. Later my dad became SC. I was going to catch the bus to college one day and an irk came running up to me to ask who I was son of as he was son of an Air Commodore that lived on the patch as did lots of senior MoD box bods. I replied I was me, my own man. Oh and by the way my dad is the SC. He looked crest fallen, tw4t.
 
KASPar said:
I always found the rank thing amusing.
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I had no problem being a Craftsman at weekends and having Majors working under my instruction during the week.

The unit I was with in Iraq was complaining, because the equipment they had was so new it didn't have a parts' list.

It got really interesting when, as a Craftsman, I advised my Corporal to advise the Sgt to advise the OC (a Captain) to contact my office and ask for Major Smith to send us some information. How do you know Major Smith? He works for me =)) .
 
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