When petrol is no more...

S54addict

S54addict

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So I posted on another thread but I thought I would title it. Somebody mentioned the horrific possibility of petrol cars being no more in possibly 5-10 years :wtf: so, what will happen to the billions of pounds invested in cars? Thoughts.....:nailbiting: Do we just sit in them and pretend.. Brrrmmm :coolsteer)
 
I can't see any government being elected with a "no petrol" policy.
 
It'll probably go the same way as smoking though, anyone with a petrol car will be made to feel like a pariah until we just give up. Clarkson for Prime Minister anyone ?

Tony.
 
Fuel has donkey's years left yet, too much money, and tax, in it. Only when other fuel types are truly ready (currently a cottage industry) will the Oil companies and Governments invest heavily in whatever infrastructure is needed. Of course the environment issue will speed progress up but as it stands other sources of energy to drive cars is miles off.
 
S54addict said:
So I posted on another thread but I thought I would title it. Somebody mentioned the horrific possibility of petrol cars being no more in possibly 5-10 years :wtf: so, what will happen to the billions of pounds invested in cars? Thoughts.....:nailbiting: Do we just sit in them and pretend.. Brrrmmm :coolsteer)
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Not really what I said.

"My only worry is that in 5/10 years time to government will try to tax petrol cars off the road"
 
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"My only worry is that in 5/10 years time to government will try to tax petrol cars off the road"[/QUOTE]

They are already doing that.
 
mwpe said:
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"My only worry is that in 5/10 years time to government will try to tax petrol cars off the road"
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They are already doing that.[/QUOTE]

I agree.

But in 5/10 years when electric cars have got more affordable, and available, I fear that road tax for petrol cars will go really high.
 
A large number of cars can work on bio-fuel with some minor mods to the fuel lines. Oil reserves in the North Sea alone are pretty massive as it is, when you factor in the sheer amount under OPEX control, I would expect I would not see much of a difference in difficulty of getting fuel between now and another 39 years.
 
t-tony said:
It'll probably go the same way as smoking though, anyone with a petrol car will be made to feel like a pariah until we just give up. Clarkson for Prime Minister anyone ?

Tony.
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That's ok, nobody likes me anyway :woot:
 
Nothing can be "disinvented". If petrol cost £100 per gallon, would just drive (much) less.:(
 
t-tony said:
It'll probably go the same way as smoking though, anyone with a petrol car will be made to feel like a pariah until we just give up.
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Difference is that driving (a Z3) is good for you!:)
 
Yes I think you're right Ian, but it'll probably be a while before we can get it on NHS prescription though mate =))
It certainly lifts my mood at the end of the day when I get in my car and it's not just because I'm leaving work.

Tony.
 
So here are the issues... stick with it!
  • Plenty of oil for many years yet, but, it’s getting more expensive to get at
  • Much of the supply is in the hands of volatile or politically unstable regions - prices will fluctuate wildly out of our control but will always be on an upward trend
  • Environmental issues force governments to tax carbon based use
  • Taxation, cost and potentially disrupted supplies will increase to make unviable to be useable by many
  • Electric vehicles are becoming more available although more expensive
  • Electricity has to be generated, the vast proportion from fossil fuels
  • The loss of our heavy manufacturing industry has created some capacity, but,
  • That capacity is being eroded because large amounts of generation capacity has been taken off line due to age and the same environmental issues
  • Renewable sources will expand to cover some of the gaps but are unreliable at times
  • Less or restricted electricity supply will be available so the costs will increase and companies will use your smart meter to cut off load and ration supply
  • Self generation will be needed to cover the gaps
  • So, to protect yourself, keep your petrol car - expensive, but you’re mobile :coolsteer)
 
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Tfp said:
They are already doing that.
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I agree.

But in 5/10 years when electric cars have got more affordable, and available, I fear that road tax for petrol cars will go really high.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, once we've turned the corner and electric cars can routinely do 500+ miles to a tank and take 10 minutes to fill up then the masses will be on board, anything else is a retrograde step.
 
Hmmm, once we've turned the corner and electric cars can routinely do 500+ miles to a tank and take 10 minutes to fill up then the masses will be on board, anything else is a retrograde step.
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This also brings a new worry.

When that happens what will the electric cars of today be worth when they're "old hat" and take 40 mins to recharge for less miles.
 
Hmmm, once we've turned the corner and electric cars can routinely do 500+ miles to a tank and take 10 minutes to fill up then the masses will be on board, anything else is a retrograde step.[/QUOTE]

This also brings a new worry.

When that happens what will the electric cars of today be worth when they're "old hat" and take 40 mins to recharge for less miles.[/QUOTE]
If it's like an old PC, pretty much nothing :whistle:
 
Well the rush to be 'eco' is causing this planet more issues than its solving. The mines and the production needed to make these batteries that only last a few years are horrendous. The chemical residue from making batteries has to go somewhere. The next craze thing is when these car batteries start to need replacing. Any takers for these nasty plastic boxes ?

Hows this for one of the many holes in the ground too.. all for the minerals needed for rechargeable batteries.

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A point far too easily overlooked Paul, when the advocates have their blinkers on they don't see this mess.

Tony.
 
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