VW emissions fallout.

[t-tony]

We finally got a letter through from VW telling us we can now take our Eos into a dealer of our choice to have the rectification work done at no cost to ourselves. (generous).
Today on the radio at lunchtime a discussion about British owners fighting for compensation with varying comments from both sides of the argument, one the one side an environmentalist saying they should just give the money over to fighting pollution, the car owners don't need it! and a VW dealer stooge saying the as the cars have been repaired at huge cost to VW (excuse me, it's their own bloody fault for conning the public in the first place) they are now better than before and therefore no compensation is needed.
Tell that to the owners who now find their cars are worth considerably less than they should be.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news...wagen-emissions-scandal/ar-BBy4dub?li=BBoPWjQ

Get shut of your dirty diesel while it's worth something, "The end is nigh!"

Tony.

 

[Grumps]

I agree Tony. Diesel is going to die it's death. They are so complicated now they struggle to work as they should with so many environmental filters etc. I won't go diesel again.

 

[Bozzy]

It's funny how they make out they're doing you the favour,typical of big companies like that.
Do you have an idea how much it's likely to have taken off the value of your car ?.

Steve

 

[t-tony]

It's funny how they make out they're doing you the favour,typical of big companies like that.
Do you have an idea how much it's likely to have taken off the value of your car ?.

Steve

I would say, having watched the value of it since we got it, at least the 3,000 they're discussing. Bloody annoying really when US buyers are looking at £8,000, and that is £'s not $'s.

Tony.

 

[zedwheels]

I believe that some car manufacturers have already decided on a date to stop production of diesel engines!

 

[t-tony]

I was told almost 2 years ago that Audi would be "out" of diesels by 2020, I don't know how accurate that will prove to be but the VAG shot themselves in the foot by trying to kid the Americans over emissions and now it almost seem as though they are trying to push hybrid and electric vehicles quickly as a penance for their "sins" and to make themselves look really "Eco-freindy"

Tony.

 

[Low Rider]

What a joke that the owners don't need compensation. Of course they do.

 

[Tfp]

We sold our 2014 Tiguan in October having owned it from new.

We actually got what I thought was a reasonable price from a VW dealer.

Not the dealer we bought it from, they tried to have our panties down in a rather big way.

But I'll never buy from VW again, nor will I buy a diesel for the family again.

 

[Tfp]

Did I hear correctly somewhere that some European countries are considering banning diesel cars in their cities?

 

[t-tony]

Did I hear correctly somewhere that some European countries are considering banning diesel cars in their cities?

Yes you did, I posted something along those lines a few weeks back. Barcelona was definitely one of them can't remember the others off hand though. Looking as though London will catch on soon too.

Tony.

 

[smiffy]

I'm also one who bought a new diesel, a Seat with the 1.6tdi. We've had the letter and ours needs software and a "thing" in the induction manifold somewhere.

Sceptical about the promise of no effects to economy or performance claim though.

Currently deciding whether to join the class action, or whether to tackle VW for compensation directly.

I have little faith in solicitors, especially those working on a "no fees" basis. I know in this case the Solicitors have an external investor funding the work, but still confident they'll stitch the car owners in the end. I know they'll also push hard for an out of court settlement which VW will go for to avoid a test case, opening up claims by all.

I'd just have prefered not to have been lied to in the first place.

 

[t-tony]

Me too, and that is the crux of the matter, we were all lied to.

Tony.

 

[Tfp]

Currently deciding whether to join the class action, or whether to tackle VW for compensation directly.

I'd just have prefered not to have been lied to in the first place.

I thought about tackling them directly, I'd have had to prove the car is worth less as a result of the situation. Came to the conclusion it would be very hard to prove.

Or, my health had been directly affected, again, thinking impossible to prove.

I think the class action will just make the solicitors money as you say.

It's a shame our ministers can't be like the US and take a hard view of our public being deceived.

 

[mrscalex]

I had the letter for my Alhambra 12 months ago. I didn't think it would be affected as it uses Ad-Blue. I've refused the work until date as I'm not happy with the way the car's been running and I don't want to complicate it further with a fix that for all I know may bring new issues.

Today I nearly signed up for the class action lead by Gordon & Slater. But decided there were risks if it went wrong. And if it goes well then VW will be obligated to pay all owners in or out of the class action.

 

[Tfp]

Today I nearly signed up for the class action lead by Gordon & Slater. But decided there were risks if it went wrong. And if it goes well then VW will be obligated to pay all owners in or out of the class action.

Good decision I think, I wouldn't trust a solicitor as far as I could throw one.

 

[Redsheep]

Agreed.
Mrs R has a 2011 Tiguan 2tdi which we have had the recall for corrective work.
Haven't had the work done yet as I'm waiting to see if anything progresses. The last thing I want to do is lose any chance of compensation because I allowed VW to "correct" the car.

 

[smiffy]

I once had some very good advice from a solicitor when I asked him to review a small claim I'd lost. The advice was;

" never go into court on principle, only ever go into court for money, and never go into court as the plaintiff!"

So, 2 negatives and then the hard bit as tony says is quantifying how much?

so, in reality i'd probably not actually start proceedings against VW, but there is nothing to stop me writing to them threatening to put them in small claims court, unless they compensate me. I'd obviously point out that small claims route would protect me from significant legal fees on their side should I loose!

 

[andyglym]

Cheeky gits! And as for the tree huggers!

 

[5harp3y]

VW haven't admitting to using coding to cheat the Euro 5 tests just the US tests so technically nothing will come of it in the UK. To me its the same as PPI, bunch of shady lawyers hedging their bets that they can get a slice of something IF anything happens.

Unless the tax banding of these cars changes due to actually omitting more CO2 nothing will change in the future either. No body will be out of pocket until the government changes its stance on diesel massively.

i don't see how the cars will be worth less in the UK as technically unless the tax changes for the worst nobody is out of pocket ... the only claim would be that they don't achieve the same MPG as quoted but that is an industry wide thing and completely separate to the emissions scandal in the US.

 

[Brian H]

We have a Tiguan, had the work carried out before Christmas, took 2.5 hrs to carry out the software stuff. I'm mixed about compensation but agree that if the class action does win then there will be an easy route for all other to claim without having to sign your life away. As to the value of the cars, have they really dropped that much in value? I'm not sure they have, nothing in the real world has changed with the car, they have programmed out the cheat mode for emissions. The vehicle tax will stay the same for the life of the car so there is nothing to have to lower the price for.