Urgent Help Needed

[oldcarman]

Do you have a bike pump @Faheem,that will blow sufficiently to blow whatever is down there out. I'm still uncertain what you mean by "I can tighten all of them besides the first plug which for some reason can't get grip on to" do you mean it won't begin threading into the opening? That would back up my theory of someone cross threading a plug in the past and the plug loosening and blowing out of the cylinder head! JIM

 

[t-tony]

I understand that he's saying something in the hole is stopping his socket going down over the plug far enough to grip on the hexagon of the plug Jim.

Tony.

 

[colb]

Looks like a mangled plug crush washer thats dished itself upwards stopping the plug spanner locating enough over the hex flats

 

[oldcarman]

Could very well be @colb like I said I'' just on an iPhone and can't enlarge it to get a clearer view. Was there a crush washer on the plug when you found it @Faheem? Would be nice if someone had a scope and was close by! Anyone?? JIM

 

[Faheem]

I'm an about an hour and a half drive from where Tony lives.

Unfortunately for myself I've just realised that I've got an operation on the 8th, nothing serious but still an operation. I've had to take a week off work so I can recover.

Does the zed shed have Christmas opening hours? the 17th? Completely up to you Tony and I'm more than happy to rearrange.

I'd like to do a service to, but it's too cold outside to do one. Just the usual oil and oil filter and fuel filter.

 

[Faheem]

something in the hole is stopping his socket going down

Tony.



 

[motco]

I don't think it is the plug that flew out that is the problem now. It is No1 plug that he cannot get a socket on to. Iy seems to be a part of the lead end that has come off and is blocking access.

 

[motco]

I'm looking at the view down the plug recess on a laptop and I can see the screw-on terminal on the tip of the plug, part of the hexagonal form near the bottom, the ceramic insulator in between, and a semi-circular black (rubber, plastic) foreign body sitting around the ceramic and resting on top of the hex effectively making the hex inaccessible to the socket. That has to be removed of course. It is almost certainly broken/torn off from the end of the plug lead. What still bothers me is how a plug (the other one) can have unscrewed all on its own. It is important to ensure that the thread in the cylinder head is sound.

 

[Tracy Dee]

Has it had a heli coil fitted ?
Cliff.

 

[Brian4]

Hi @Faheem are you about home today or tomorrow as I'm in Leicester and can have a look with you if you would like.

 

[colb]

Just had a look at a set of ignition leads picture on here http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4l...28e20fa4a141d9dd442e493cd78145aebf4b13&000198

Looks like the bottom section of the lead has broken off and still gripping the plug that's why the plug spanner will not engage with the plug flats. Going to have to get some sort of thin hook down there and pull the remains off the plug to get the spanner to seat correctly on the flats.

 

[oldcarman]

Sorry thought we were talking the hole which puked the spark plug. Looking at that plug it appears that the first few threads seen to be chewed up a bit which would support the cross threading theory. Worth a closer look at that particular hole in my mind! JIM

 

[Faheem]

I cleared the codes and scanned again today I keep getting code p0130 which is for the o2 sensor.

Despite clearing the misfire codes they're still showing as pending.

Could it be linked?

 

[colb]

I think you need to sort out your spark plug issues first, get these right then see how the car runs, clear the codes it has set once you have sorted the plugs. Run the car and check again for codes.
If the Exhaust sensor code returns then check for air leaks on all the rubber pipes under the bonnet, leaks will have an effect on the exhaust sensors. If no leaks are found then another possibility is a bad Maf but I would expect a code to be set for this as well. Some diagnostics will let you see what the exhaust sensor is doing, it should be switching from lean to rich quite quickly if its working ok on a fully warmed up engine. If its slow to respond then it may have issues and a replacement may be needed. Worth doing these checks before spending out on a new one and only buy oem makes Bosch or Seimens sensors, cheap ones will waste your money.

P0130 Description The front heated oxygen sensor (or O2 sensor 1) is placed into the exhaust manifold. It detects the amount of oxygen in the exhaust gas compared to the outside air. The heated oxygen sensor 1 has a closed-end tube made of ceramic zirconia. The zirconia generates voltage from approximately 1V in richer conditions to 0V in leaner conditions. The heated oxygen sensor 1 signal is sent to the Engine Control Module (ECM). The ECM adjusts the injection pulse duration to achieve the ideal air-fuel ratio. The ideal air-fuel ratio occurs near the radical change from 1V to 0V.

Read more: http://www.engine-codes.com/p0130.html

 

[Faheem]

@colb Thank you, will update this thread once I've had a chance to look into this.

 

[Faheem]

@Brian4 arrived today to give me a hand with the item obstructing access to the plug. Unfortunately my zed for the first time ever was too dirty to show off.

We managed to get it thankfully using some plastic tubing and a vacuum. It was a piece of foreign plastic that certainly didn't belong in the cylinder.

He also fit a new water pump and thermostat on my zed, so hopefully I should be good for another 70000 miles.

His mechanical knowledge is excellent in fact if he hadn't come I would still be at it right now trying to fit the water pump.

He's also planning on gifting me his 3.0l zed this Christmas in exchange for my 1.9.

 

[t-tony]

Top job @Brian4 , what was the offending plastic? Happy to here you got it sorted ok Faheem.

Tony.

 

[Low Rider]

@Brian4 arrived today to give me a hand with the item obstructing access to the plug. Unfortunately my zed for the first time ever was too dirty to show off.

We managed to get it thankfully using some plastic tubing and a vacuum. It was a piece of foreign plastic that certainly didn't belong in the cylinder.
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He also fit a new water pump and thermostat on my zed, so hopefully I should be good for another 70000 miles.

His mechanical knowledge is excellent in fact if he hadn't come I would still be at it right now trying to fit the water pump.

He's also planning on gifting me his 3.0l zed this Christmas in exchange for my 1.9.

Excellent Brian how kind of you to gift your Zed to Faheem

But seriously what a star you are for taking the time out to help

 

[Faheem]

@t-tony I don't know what the plastic was, initially I thought it may be the supporting rubber that you get in spark plug sockets but it was a bit of unknown plastic that should not have been there, the leads weren't damaged at all.

@Low Rider I agree, I only asked if I could use his help last night which is very last minute but he came first thing in the morning to help. He's brilliant!

 

[Brian4]

Top job @Brian4 , what was the offending plastic? Happy to here you got it sorted ok Faheem.

Tony.

No idea where it came from but was hard and 3/4 of the way around the ceramic of the plug, managed to snap it in half and suck the bits out. One we got on the other is with the dust and we weren't delving in there.
@Faheem happy to help and made a change from wallpapering, I got most done so back in good books again I think.
Water pump came out easily when we had some longer bits to push it out and all filled up easily with antifreeze. Good to meet you today.