The Next Generation G29!!!!

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Nice in depth write up.:thumbsup:
can't say I am a fan of the looks the front looks ugly side view looks a bit Honda 2000
But only my opinion of course everyone is different and we all like different things making life more interesting .:)
Would much prefer Boxster GTS
Thanks for sharing your findings.
 

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Yes Althulas, I still think The E89 was a good concept and I love the styling however there is a downside to storing the roof in the boot. You can't access very much of the boot with the roof down, also the extra weight in the boot is noticeable when the car is driven hard with the roof down.

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@EnthuZiaZT That’s a good point on how the roof could have a impact on the handling I never considered that but still like the concept though. Does it still have more space in the boot with the roof folded down than the Z3.
 

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I am surprised it is going back to a soft top !!

I must admit I like the hard top convertible
I was surprised BMW had abandoned the tin top, It makes the car seem very secure, however the soft top on the new Z4 is very quick to put up and down which the twin top roof of the E89 isn't.

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@EnthuZiaZT That’s a good point on how the roof could have a impact on the handling I never considered that but still like the concept though. Does it still have more space in the boot with the roof folded down than the Z3.
The space in the boot of the new car isn't affected at all by the roof, the boot is gigantic by Z3 standards. Plenty big enough to take all those extra clothes Sandy likes to pack when we go on holiday. What's more everything you pack in the boot is accessible with the roof down, which is not the case with the old Z4 E89. In fact if customs want to inspect the contents of the boot of the E89 you need to put the Roof up. Having said that we have not had a problem packing the Boot of the E89 which is still Large, Roof up or down.

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Nice in depth write up.:thumbsup:
can't say I am a fan of the looks the front looks ugly side view looks a bit Honda 2000
But only my opinion of course everyone is different and we all like different things making life more interesting .:)
Would much prefer Boxster GTS
Thanks for sharing your findings.
The Looks really do grow on you. They are aggressive Yes but with careful consideration when buying can, be toned down to your taste.

Mike
 

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Probably for weight reduction as it looks to have grown in size by the looks of it.
It does not feel like a big car when you drive it. the cockpit is quite spacious but still intimate as a sports car should be.

Mike
 

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For many reasons I didn't go to the BMW garage intending to like the new Z4, everything I've seen on the media and in the press has tended to turn me off it. The Styling is the main thing it's a bit Marmite in my opinion. I was surprised that I liked it as much as I did. I came away from the garage enthusing to Sandy about the car and plotting to buy one. The cost is the big limiting factor however, that aside it is a very impressive car. The car I drove did not have the M sport package, but I left the garage after the test drive wondering how having had M sport suspension the ride could have been improved. I was also impressed that the 20i engine performed as well as it did, I can't wait to drive the 30i. which has 255hp and a 0-60 time of 5.4 seconds, that should put the car in the Z3m bracket performance wise. The M40i Z4 does not seem to have any performance improvement over the E89 35is which is a shame and to some extent puzzling. Have BMW missed a chance there?

Mike
 
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Please BMW.

Make a Z1

A lightweight roadster, with a manual gearbox, LSD, and a proper handbrake.
In practice the handbrake on my E89 has been very reliable, Tfp, touch wood! With the new Z4 you have the choice when purchasing of selecting a 2T4 Msport differential which is available as an optinal extra on the 30i and standard on the M40i the automatic gear box in the manual gear selection mode is a joy to use, the gear changes are much faster then the manual gearbox and you have an extra two gears to play with, I would not dismiss the car because it has an auto gearbox. A manual gearbox is available on the 20i which has the twin turbo configuration and my guess would be that a good performance mapper could squeeze the engine into the 290 HP region without any trouble.
I'm not sure that the 4pot 20i engine should be taken beyond 300 HP as this may cause reliability issues as Twin Turbo, who posted a lot about these problems may have already hinted at with his experiments.

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I think these new cars will be great if you can afford them as new or first few owners,
I wonder when they get to 10 or 15 years old how many technological faults will just write them off. an ecu here, a module there, LED lights, etc etc.
Even batteries now have to be coded to a car, the chance of owners like us doing work, gets less and less likely as they progress.
You will need a password to open the bonnet in future I bet,
 

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In practice the handbrake on my E89 has been very reliable,
I'm not doubting the reliability, I just feel it's needless technology on a small sports car.

The rear discs on my last Audi got scored within 4,000 miles.

The dealer said it was down to under use of the rear brakes??? My fault????

They partly blamed the electric handbrake???

It all sounded a load of tosh to me, but as you can imagine, I'm not having a car with an electric handbrake anymore.

Rules out loads of cars I know.

It looks like I'm heading the MX-5/Abarth Spider route for my next toy.

They weigh about a tonne, nice and simple, and 20k for something very nearly new.

It's interesting the new high powered Z4 lapped the ring quicker than an M2.

So that's proof it's an awesome car, it's just they've got very expensive, and very technical.

My last few cars have been like this, I didn't fall in love with them, and loved getting into my Z3 which was beautifully simple.

Anyhow, each to their own, I just wish BMW would make something similar to the MX-5
 

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I think these new cars will be great if you can afford them as new or first few owners,
I wonder when they get to 10 or 15 years old how many technological faults will just write them off. an ecu here, a module there, LED lights, etc etc.
Even batteries now have to be coded to a car, the chance of owners like us doing work, gets less and less likely as they progress.
You will need a password to open the bonnet in future I bet,
In 10-15 years time we will all be driving milk floats, these are the last generations of cars that will be built with a petrol engine gookah. I for one will mourn the passing of the internal combustion engine, even I know it's demise is inevitable. How long petrol will be available is another problem I suspect I will be dead before that becomes unavailable. Just a thought! An engine is an engine, an engine. It has pistons conrods, a crankshaft and valves. Any one with a rudimentary Knowledge of mechanics can repair one. Yes the electronics make life difficult, for the amateur mechanic, but even these problems can be overcome with patience. Don't give up just because life is more complicated embrace it and enjoy the challenge.

Mike
 

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I'm not doubting the reliability, I just feel it's needless technology on a small sports car.

The rear discs on my last Audi got scored within 4,000 miles.

The dealer said it was down to under use of the rear brakes??? My fault????

They partly blamed the electric handbrake???

It all sounded a load of tosh to me, but as you can imagine, I'm not having a car with an electric handbrake anymore.

Rules out loads of cars I know.

It looks like I'm heading the MX-5/Abarth Spider route for my next toy.

They weigh about a tonne, nice and simple, and 20k for something very nearly new.

It's interesting the new high powered Z4 lapped the ring quicker than an M2.

So that's proof it's an awesome car, it's just they've got very expensive, and very technical.

My last few cars have been like this, I didn't fall in love with them, and loved getting into my Z3 which was beautifully simple.

Anyhow, each to their own, I just wish BMW would make something similar to the MX-5
We all have choices, I drive a BMW Z4 because I don't want to drive an MX5 which I believe is an excellent car. We each have a choice to make. BMW has continued to embrace new technology even the Z1 and the Z3 were advancements in their day. I would say what you mistrust because of technology today you will embrace in 10 years time, when that technology becomes the norm.

Mike
 
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I like the looks and the interior but one or two details look out of place on a 40k+ car, especially those cheap looking alloy struts under the bonnet angled forwards onto the slam panel. They look like an afterthought to me. Great write up though. :thumbsup:
 

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Today was not only the launch of the new generation Z4, G29, but my first experience of the new model too. A keen young salesman gave us the speel, I had asked to drive the 30i, but the car they had ready was a sDrive20i Sport, which has 197 HP 0-60 in 6.6 seconds and claim fuel consumption of 37.2 - 38.2 MPG. The car has an enormous full width boot measuring 281 litres, as they have reverted back to the soft top, so no longer limited by the roof folding mechanism. Under the bonnet, the car boasted a 2litre twin turbo engine, the plastic cover obscured the view of the engine. The Salesman drove it out onto the forecourt and Sandy & I were away.

Exterior styling aside for the time being, the car we were driving had the comfort, the driving assist and the technology package, I found the instrument cluster a bit confusing at first, being used to the analogue dials, tacho and speedo of my E89. Leaving it in auto and selecting sport mode, the car seemed quite lively on the accelerator, accompanied by the lovely raspy exhaust note with the twin tail outlets, one either side of the car.

Heading out East on the A47, we were initially challenged by the number of speed limits as we went through the various built up areas, the head up display makes driving in these confined areas simple, I did notice that if I went 5 miles an hour over the speed limit, the speed limit indicator flashed at me angrily and the indicated speed colour turned from white to red. When at last we got out on to the open road, I found suspension wise the car was well set up, given that our Norfolk Roads are extremely undulating, the suspension soaked up the bumps which were unnoticeable in the cabin. As we got in to heavy traffic, we turned off the A47 towards Sandringham in a nice little section of twisting and turning country roads, I switched the auto box to manual control and used the paddle shifters to select the gears, pushing the car a little on the corners, it was very satisfying to accelerate hard and change up a gear and down a gear as you come into the next corner.

The gear box has 8 forward gears, which means there is enough gears in there to play with on all the numerous bends. Although the engine speed wasn't immediately apparent to me on the tacho, I reverted to instinct, the engine seemed to pull best between 3000 and 5000 revs. There was no roll on the suspension as I thought there might be initially and the car felt quite at home on the corners.

We headed to Sandringham for a quick photoshoot and then back to Listers BMW garage in Kings Lynn, all in all, we had the car for 50 minutes of sheer driving pleasure, even the photographer was impressed and her usual shouts of 'Slow down' 'Mind that pedestrian' and 'You're approaching a 30 mile an hour limit' were forgotten as she soaked up the luxury of the extremely comfortable and supportive leather seats.

In conclusion, do I want one, yes, can I afford one, Ummmmm!!! Now where did I put that lottery ticket!!!!

Mike & Sandy

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I'm wondering of the first impression you got when you exceeded the speed limit and the heads up display started flashing in red that you thought the red flashing light was a reflection of the lights of a police car behind you......................Frankie
 

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Saw one on the A3 yesterday, in white, saw it coming in the rear view mirror. Lovely I think
 

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I like the looks and the interior but one or two details look out of place on a 40k+ car, especially those cheap looking alloy struts under the bonnet angled forwards onto the slam panel. They look like an afterthought to me. Great write up though. :thumbsup:
Yes I noticed those as well, on the E89 the suspension towers are braced to the scuttle, but on the new Z4 the braces go forward. I'm not sure what they achieve in that position. I do know that the handling was very good, I enjoyed throwing it into the corners!

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I'm wondering of the first impression you got when you exceeded the speed limit and the heads up display started flashing in red that you thought the red flashing light was a reflection of the lights of a police car behind you......................Frankie
No Frankie I did not, I just wondered what would happen if I went faster! would the engine cut out? or perhaps the speakers would emit a loud clapping sound.

Mike
 
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