Someone hit my Zed

Bumpa

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I think the shock sensor
If you choose to activate it runs off the built in battery

Tony.
My Nextbase dash cam will only run for about 1 - 2 minutes on its internal battery. The instruction leaflet said that is the way it is designed. There's just enough power to allow a controlled shut down once the external power is removed.
 

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How can you use it to power up on ignition ? Confusing.

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Sorry Tony, not sure what you mean. When you switch on the igntion, the socket becomes live and the dash cam starts up automatically. It will do this even if the internal battery is quite flat.
 

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Both of my cameras are hard wired and ignition fed. If I select the collision sensor which is activated when the car is parked (ignition off) how does the camera work if not from the internal Battery?

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Well, they must use their internal power source, obviously. I have just been looking up the manual for the Nextbase 402G which I have. It says the internal battery will operate the device for approx 6 minutes. I was being a bit pessimistic over that. With regard to the "G sensor" all it says is that "In the event of an impact the device will automatically 'protect' the recording, stopping the file from being over-written." Nothing about the camera being switched on if the G-sensor is activated while the camera is off.
 

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I can vouch for that working too.:). You can also take the camera of it's mount and take stills with it if you need to.

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I can't remember how mine is wired in, I think its taken from the remote wire on the head unit. Comes on when turning on the ignition, but stays on for probably 15 - 20 minutes after turning the car off. Also has a time lapse which stays recording for a while and goes through the footage around 10 secs per minute recorded. I am not sure how it's setup and whether the shock sensor caught this impact, I think it was still recording looking at footage either side of the impact. The rear one comes on and goes off with the ignition but it's not working properly. Neither have had caused any issues with the battery.

I went to see my mate yesterday to get a quote (to send to DVLA, to get the owners details) and it came back today. They are BMW approved insurance repairers. This is what it would cost going through insurance.

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£1411.58! This would certainly write it off. He is doing me a quote to do the work as a private job. He quoted me around £300 last year to paint the bumper and splitter, I'm hoping similar. It's amazing how much they add on when it's an insurance job. This will scare the lad to death when I send it to him.
 

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The accelerometer could be set to detect an impact and then wake up the camera and recording without using too much power and record for a few seconds immediately afterwards. Unlikely to prove anything much though. Nextbase 412GW and upwards support something similar to this feature.

The camera can be set to continuously capture video in RAM and then dump that to non-volatile memory on a trigger. Would still need a battery larger than those normally in desk-cams - moving large amounts of video data around is power hungry. Most dash cams are simply a thin sliver of lithium battery - enough for a short period of operation only.

The 12V-5V USB power supplies are typically 10W. Not sure what the standard current draw is, but just under 1A from 12V is obviously the peak. You would get a couple of days life (but would probably be unable to start you car) from your car battery. Short term use only if just left on I would have thought.
 

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£1411.58! This would certainly write it off. He is doing me a quote to do the work as a private job. He quoted me around £300 last year to paint the bumper and splitter, I'm hoping similar. It's amazing how much they add on when it's an insurance job. This will scare the lad to death when I send it to him.
There is no way that should even be allowed, as we all pick up the tab through insurance premiums.
Why are they removing the bonnet badge and grilles? and road test after body work? Also you have to pay for quality control? surely that should be automatic.
Mind you I saw on my dash cam how they road tested mine and the speed they did it.
 

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Galaxy isn't chocolate.

Sugar, Cocoa Butter, Skimmed Milk Powder, Cocoa Mass, Milk Fat, Lactose, Whey Powder (from Milk), Palm Fat, Emulsifier (Soya Lecithin), Natural Vanilla Extract, Milk Chocolate contains Milk Solids 14% minimum and Cocoa Solids 25% minimum, Milk chocolate contains vegetable fats in addition to coca butter.

If only 25% of my Z3 was BMW, it wouldn't be called a BMW. Not sure what it would be, but definitely not BMW.

May have veered slightly off-topic there. And Topic ain't chocolate, either.
Remaining slightly off topic, i don't care if it's not actually chocolate i still love it and actually if it's not chocolate i will not feel guilty stuffing my face this Christmas - Result =))=))=))
 

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Sadly even if you do get the full details, they may well still deny it, or say that they never felt a bump etc, and your only recourse is then the insurance route. They may even lie and say it was your fault, they came out the gym and found their car damaged by you, and you drove off!

If you report to the insurance, it will either be filed as a no fault claim, or more than likely, equal fault, and you will then have that on record, and be paying them back in increased premiums for the next few years.

Best route is to just repair it and forget it. What a pain!
 

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Sadly even if you do get the full details, they may well still deny it, or say that they never felt a bump etc, and your only recourse is then the insurance route. They may even lie and say it was your fault, they came out the gym and found their car damaged by you, and you drove off!

If you report to the insurance, it will either be filed as a no fault claim, or more than likely, equal fault, and you will then have that on record, and be paying them back in increased premiums for the next few years.

Best route is to just repair it and forget it. What a pain!



He has all the details.
He has a video of the car reversing into his parked car. the other party would struggle saying it was the other way around...
He has already reported it to his insurance
He has now spoke with the other party, who has admitted fault and agreed to pay up.

keep up.... ;)
 

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I’m sure DVLA will give you the Cars address when you need the info because of an accident. They used to do a form where you could find out the previous owners of your car. But they stopped it, unless it was for an accident.
Good luck
 

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He has all the details.
He has a video of the car reversing into his parked car. the other party would struggle saying it was the other way around...
He has already reported it to his insurance
He has now spoke with the other party, who has admitted fault and agreed to pay up.

keep up.... ;)
How weird! I posted that days ago! Although just started up laptop again today, can only imagine that it didn't send, and I didn't notice.

Good to read all in progress..
 

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There is no way that should even be allowed, as we all pick up the tab through insurance premiums.
Why are they removing the bonnet badge and grilles? and road test after body work? Also you have to pay for quality control? surely that should be automatic.
Mind you I saw on my dash cam how they road tested mine and the speed they did it.
Yes they did a great road test in yours! Haven't a clue why they need to do all that, it's just a way of ripping of the insurance companies which is why everyone's gets bumped up.

I’m sure DVLA will give you the Cars address when you need the info because of an accident. They used to do a form where you could find out the previous owners of your car. But they stopped it, unless it was for an accident.
Good luck
Yes, that was mine intention why I went to get a quote. You have to send proof off the damage, plus a quote for repairs and pay a fee of £2.50 and they will send the details following a 'reasonable request' after an incident.

I took a couple of pics of his rear bumper the other night and there was no damage at all. He may have got out and checked his and seen there was no damage so drove off not expecting to do any to mine. The car park is not lit well at all, you could barely see any damage on mine apart from the smashed sidelight, still no excuse to drive away. Hopefully it won't be more than a couple hundred quid in damages, even just to repair that corner. But I'll get the whole bumper painted and he can pay for the repair on that side, plus a new light. It will wait until the new year now, I've got a bit of money saved to get a few other bits of paint done so may as well have it all done at once.
 

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I would just go back to the Gym same time every night for a week and see if the car is there. If i spotted it i would either wait for them to come out and confront with the evidence. Or i would tell the gym someones car has lights on and ask them to put a call out with the reg number.....then get them.

This is all of course dependent on how big the gym guy is :)
 

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He has all the details.
He has a video of the car reversing into his parked car. the other party would struggle saying it was the other way around...
He has already reported it to his insurance
He has now spoke with the other party, who has admitted fault and agreed to pay up.

keep up.... ;)
I would just go back to the Gym same time every night for a week and see if the car is there. If i spotted it i would either wait for them to come out and confront with the evidence. Or i would tell the gym someones car has lights on and ask them to put a call out with the reg number.....then get them.

This is all of course dependent on how big the gym guy is :)
keep up (as well.)...;)
 

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Well finally got a quote back from the Autocraft who gave me the first one but just to repair that corner and the sidelight paying them direct, £278. Also got one from ChipsAway to do a smart repair and replace the sidelight at £235. Sent him both quotes and told him I'd be happy if he pays for the repair at ChipsAway, it won't be going there and I'll have the whole bumper done instead. He's paid up so I'll get a new sidelight and have a couple hundred quid towards the full bumper paint which I was planning on doing prior to this anyway so it's turned out OK. He's been fine all throughout since I found him and I think it's taught him a lesson not to drive off, he got away with it lightly. If he didn't hold his hands up I'd have got the police involved and got him to pay up the first quote.
 
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