On the limit?

Maybe, don't know, depends on the driver but at least you would get to know the limits of your car.
You just gave a good example of the guy with the 500cc.
Personally with the M it's too much car for me but I do enjoy it,and really I don't want to be able to find the limit as I'm not going to be taking it onto a track.so this begs the question do I need it to handle any better than it already does?
 
In the dry Hugh, I don't think you ever will. But in the wet? well thats a different kettle of fish. I suspect that like me you have driven in the worst road conditions Nature can throw at us, You know that when the steering goes light its time to back off. I've driven motorbikes on compacted snow and ice,in the days when the back tyres on them were square section and the fronts were round section, Believe me on a Norton it's not pleasant, you drive slowly and with your feet down. I've also driven Cars in the same conditions, I have great respect for the road at these times, as I know from experience how painful a mistake is.

Mike
 
Not Z related but when I found my limits was in a Formula Ford 3000 (on track) had no idea what I was sitting in, spun it three times and shat myself.
 
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So three times is how many times it took you to learn to take the corner fast, without Skidding Mike

Mike
 
Yep Mike, did indeed but that is my point about knowing the car, this was a proper set up racing car, its the p***** behind the wheel that is the weak link.
 
It's all about observation, i took some advanced training a couple of years ago & did it show my lack/loss of skill up. after a couple of drives with better observation speed rose and more comfortable too. I reckon it should be compulsory to take regular re tests as i passed my test in an Austin A60 40 + years ago & cars & roads change so much.
HT is right, if you want to find your limit try a track. But fresh snow on a supermarket carpark is fun too:ymdevil:
 
Yep Mike, did indeed but that is my point about knowing the car, this was a proper set up racing car, its the p***** behind the wheel that is the weak link.

I doubt it Mike, the car you drove, Was it set up for you or for someone else?

You don't drink Milk Mark!!!:ymdevil:

Mike
 
Keep on using the same bit of road with the same bends and keep pushing till you spin! :ymdevil: then you will be educated.:thumbsup:
 
If you want to drive 'on the limit' you should be on a track so that when you exceed 'the limit' you only damage yourself and car and not somebody else on ordinary roads.
 
I agree Dave, too many accidents happen today not because the driver is bad but because he is reacting to the actions of another driver.

Mike
 
So in a round about way making your car handle and perform better is a waste of time unless your going to track it?
 
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