Still too much IMHO
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£1,000 to £1,200 is viable breaker territory for a 2.2 Sport. I suspect those are the sort of offers he might have had so far.
But I think it’s better than that.
I don’t think £1,500 is too far off to be fair.
I’d probably offer £1,200 bought blind. Or £1,400-£1,500 if he’s prepared to take sill covers off to see what lurks behind and it’s all okay.
I really don’t think new wings/sill covers and brakes would be the end to it by a very long way though.
But if you are happy with DIY then it might still be a better bet than parting with £4K for a pretty looking car that could require similar levels of renewal.
But I think it’s better than that.
I don’t think £1,500 is too far off to be fair.
I’d probably offer £1,200 bought blind. Or £1,400-£1,500 if he’s prepared to take sill covers off to see what lurks behind and it’s all okay.
I really don’t think new wings/sill covers and brakes would be the end to it by a very long way though.
But if you are happy with DIY then it might still be a better bet than parting with £4K for a pretty looking car that could require similar levels of renewal.
The plus is that's its a 1 owner car I guess. Interior looks good. Hood looks bad. I offered 1400euros on behalf of my German friends, but refused. That was delivered to West London.
Guess he's not desperate to shift then.
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It makes the one that was near me look very cheap indeed, as it had no rust at all with a full mot and sold for £1600
Unless you are desperate for this colour there are much better choices around.but it still goes back to how much does it look like you need to spend.pair of sills £250 front wings £200 rear facelift wings£200 refurb wheels £300 paint?£350 dents in doors £150.this is what I can see that I would like to get fixed without starting on anything else just by looking at the pictures and it’s done 100k.my pricing may be wrong but it would be close to£1500 just on what you can see
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Mine was the exact same. But only 80k mileage. I paid 2k.
Will need thousands spent to get it up to a decent standard.
Still on original suspension. Bushes etc.
Was easier and cheaper to but a doner car. As I needed every panel.
Engine sensors. Major service. Pipes etc. And still no end in sight.
Buy best you can afford I realise now
Will need thousands spent to get it up to a decent standard.
Still on original suspension. Bushes etc.
Was easier and cheaper to but a doner car. As I needed every panel.
Engine sensors. Major service. Pipes etc. And still no end in sight.
Buy best you can afford I realise now
Not necessarily, I paid £700 for a 2.8 knowing it would need the lot doing, but whatever 2.8 I bought would get the same treatment, you can pay 4k for a 2.8 that looks good but will still need 2-3k spending on rebuilding the underside
Don’t really know the cost of underside work can you give us an approx cost of it and what usually needs doing I think this would make a good guide for someone contemplating buying one to do up
I would think by underside Sean means suspension and brakes primarily. But that would include a very thorough refresh with rear axle removed and all new bushes. Things like anti-roll bar and chassis brace shot-blasted and powder-coated. New brake pipes and calipers.
Plus Sean would have cleaned up and repainted the underside.
I can quite easily see where £2-£3k comes from in parts alone. If you had the work done by a workshop you have labour on top which at £50 an hour for the 170 hours mentioned (so far) is £8.5k. And the hourly rate might be more than that.
Sean has documented his work on his project thread. But trying to transfer this volume of how to knowledge in one go is impossible. You have to learn one job at a time then put it all together.
It’s taken me 3 years to have enough knowledge to go at a programme that size. And I’ve gone through 6 cars in that time.
The best advice I can give is buy a scrapper and break it. You learn an awful lot like that in a low risk environment if you get something wrong.
In terms of must dos. The vast majority of Z3s, if not previously refreshed, need new shocks, springs and jointed components like wishbones and drop links. There’s £700+ in parts there alone. The labour wouldn’t be too bad having that done at a garage. But that by no means covers the full range of ‘underside’ activity.
Plus Sean would have cleaned up and repainted the underside.
I can quite easily see where £2-£3k comes from in parts alone. If you had the work done by a workshop you have labour on top which at £50 an hour for the 170 hours mentioned (so far) is £8.5k. And the hourly rate might be more than that.
Sean has documented his work on his project thread. But trying to transfer this volume of how to knowledge in one go is impossible. You have to learn one job at a time then put it all together.
It’s taken me 3 years to have enough knowledge to go at a programme that size. And I’ve gone through 6 cars in that time.
The best advice I can give is buy a scrapper and break it. You learn an awful lot like that in a low risk environment if you get something wrong.
In terms of must dos. The vast majority of Z3s, if not previously refreshed, need new shocks, springs and jointed components like wishbones and drop links. There’s £700+ in parts there alone. The labour wouldn’t be too bad having that done at a garage. But that by no means covers the full range of ‘underside’ activity.
This still looks the better buy just from the pics and less mileage. we may have been lucky with ours 120000 only drop link and arb bushes .disks and pads of course so far the suspension is ok but expect to do it sometime just come back from a 3000mile Euro trip on the whole they are built well if you pick the right one https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/163144312778
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That breaker idea is a good one.
I’m not nowhere near mechanical minded. But by having a scrap car has learnt me a lot.
I’ve replaced nearly every panel on my own. Wouldn’t of done that before as you learn on the scrapper before touching the one you want.
Replace a door today. Not a big thing. But for me it was
I’m not nowhere near mechanical minded. But by having a scrap car has learnt me a lot.
I’ve replaced nearly every panel on my own. Wouldn’t of done that before as you learn on the scrapper before touching the one you want.
Replace a door today. Not a big thing. But for me it was
How do you know your shocks are okay though? I’ll lay odds that if your car has done 120k miles on the originals they are providing little in the way of assistance. If you took them off and pushed the rod in it probably wouldn’t return.
On all 6 of the cars I’ve either dismantled or rebuilt the shocks were either original and scrap or okay but replacements.
And all of those cars drove reasonably enough and passed MOTs. You might only find out when you ask them to help in an emergency
Not trying to frighten you. Just explaining why you’ll see time and time again people replacing shocks on this forum.
The £4K pistachio is not a Sport. In fact it’s the first non-Sport Pistachio I’ve seen, I was starting to think they were all Sports.
I've only stripped the suspension off 2 Z3s and both where on original stock, the shocks on both vehicles where doing nothing whatsoever and where totally shot.How do you know your shocks are okay though? I’ll lay odds that if your car has done 120k miles on the originals they are providing little in the way of assistance. If you took them off and pushed the rod in it probably wouldn’t return.
On all 6 of the cars I’ve either dismantled or rebuilt the shocks were either original and scrap or okay but replacements.
And all of those cars drove reasonably enough and passed MOTs. You might only find out when you ask them to help in an emergency
Not trying to frighten you. Just explaining why you’ll see time and time again people replacing shocks on this forum.
The £4K pistachio is not a Sport. In fact it’s the first non-Sport Pistachio I’ve seen, I was starting to think they were all Sports.
From memory I think you made the biggest mistake possible by buying it blind
I think a list of what to look out for would be a good idea not an instruction of how to do it just a idea of some of the most usual worn parts At maybe 100000.theres not many mortals that are going to have or put the time that you and Sean have and the thought of buying a scrap car to take to bits lol have you seen my workshop
its a good thing to check and perhaps mine aren’t the originals as they are fine although the ones on the ///M might need a refreshHow do you know your shocks are okay though? I’ll lay odds that if your car has done 120k miles on the originals they are providing little in the way of assistance. If you took them off and pushed the rod in it probably wouldn’t return.
On all 6 of the cars I’ve either dismantled or rebuilt the shocks were either original and scrap or okay but replacements.
And all of those cars drove reasonably enough and passed MOTs. You might only find out when you ask them to help in an emergency
Not trying to frighten you. Just explaining why you’ll see time and time again people replacing shocks on this forum.
The £4K pistachio is not a Sport. In fact it’s the first non-Sport Pistachio I’ve seen, I was starting to think they were all Sports.
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I wasn’t driving 7 hrs. Took a gamble. Didn’t pay off this time.
If you PM me I’ll send you my personal ready reckoner I use. For one reason or another I’m not prepared to post it on the forum.I think a list of what to look out for would be a good idea not an instruction of how to do it just a idea of some of the most usual worn parts At maybe 100000.theres not many mortals that are going to have or put the time that you and Sean have and the thought of buying a scrap car to take to bits lol have you seen my workshop
its a good thing to check and perhaps mine aren’t the originals as they are fine although the ones on the ///M might need a refresh
I think I’d speak for Sean as well when I say neither of us have a magical source of time for doing this stuff. We both have families and in my case I only spend half the week in Swindon. We have to put other stuff on hold while we are having an intensive phase and that’s not always a good thing.
I try and do 1 project a year between start of the more reasonable whether in March and start of school holidays. So in other words I’m about to finish my latest project and calm things down!