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And frequently did. I remember the days of turning a long leaf into a short leaf etc. Could repair cars in those days mutter grumble...Any blacksmith could repair them anyway
And frequently did. I remember the days of turning a long leaf into a short leaf etc. Could repair cars in those days mutter grumble...Any blacksmith could repair them anyway
Proper cars back then Garry.My 30yr old Merc is still running on original suspension
It's a W124 series which was widely acknowledged as being the last of the proper Mercs, but it's only done 136k in it's life, so hopefully she'll be around for a good while yet. The dreaded tin worm has got a hold of the front wheel arches and in a few other places, but overall she's a good example of an "unmolested" 30yr old motor. The interior still looks like no ones ever been in it, but that's German engineering for you. Saying that though, the Zeds interior wears well tooProper cars back then Garry.
Love the old Mercs Garry. Can't stand the new stuff, keep on top of the tin worm and it should see many more years.It's a W124 series which was widely acknowledged as being the last of the proper Mercs, but it's only done 136k in it's life, so hopefully she'll be around for a good while yet. The dreaded tin worm has got a hold of the front wheel arches and in a few other places, but overall she's a good example of an "unmolested" 30yr old motor. The interior still looks like no ones ever been in it, but that's German engineering for you. Saying that though, the Zeds interior wears well too
Haha a good story mikeMany years ago, about 1963 in my RAF days, a few of us had a trip to London in someones old Vauxhaul Velox. on th way back there was a bang from the rear and a leaf spring had broken. We found a block of wood and tied it between the axle and body with some rope and carried on, all went well until the driver tried to out accelerate someone from the traffic lights when it all fell apart. We tied it all up again and made it back to camp.
That did used to be correct Adrian, however the fail criteria now "Broken", so if you see a sharp ragged edge on the end of the coil it is obviously broken. IF, however you are unscrupulous enough to cut the last coil or half coil etc. off and leave a clean 90deg. cut it would be hard to tell. (unless you've seen it with your own eyes!). Even if a complete spring is not located correctly if it a fail.Am I correct Tony in saying that even if the bottom coil has snapped and gone, provided it is still seated securely it's not an MoT fail? Obviously you don't want a lower ride height.
That's right. My Toyota RAV4 2006 I purchased from a Japanese trading car platform (https://carfromjapan.com/cheap-used-toyota-rav4-for-sale-year2006) last year also has never met the same issue. Although it's a used car, everything seems great.never had broken springs on my avenger, my old fiats, old toyota corolla etc.
Nowadays its common. they blame the roads.... but it's suspension after all and should be able to cope. If roads were billiard tables suspension would not be required. Everything is value engineered so that anything out of the unusual causes a failure. back in the 70s it wasn't value engineered.
BMW springs are plastic coated and when the salt gets on the spring bases and the springs press down it, it punctures the plastic coating and water gets in to rot the springs away causing the failure. Stupid design for a country that uses salt on the roads
But nice and easy to replace,just bit of brute force to line up the stud in the bottom into the axle.Yes they did.
In the trade back in the day we called it suicide suspension.If I remember correctly there was a thread about springs breaking several months ago and the cause was due to the manufacturers no longer stress relieving the springs after bending. This results in a spring being more brittle and thus prone to snap when shock loaded (e.g. potholes). Anybody else remember?
To reduce manufacturing costs the car manufacturers could always return to the transverse leaf spring arrangement. A single leaf spring across the rear axle with a wheel on each end. The TrIumph Herald/Spitfire had this arrangement and the rear camber angles got "very interesting" at times. You quickly learnt not to push it too hard into a corner.
My first car was a triumph herald convertible (passed driving test in it), second a Spitfire 4 (MK 1). Bends were always entertaining but you learnt much about car control. "Hot Car" magazine always had driving tips in it (how to position for a corner etc). And James Hunt was my hero, for a number of reasons!!If I remember correctly there was a thread about springs breaking several months ago and the cause was due to the manufacturers no longer stress relieving the springs after bending. This results in a spring being more brittle and thus prone to snap when shock loaded (e.g. potholes). Anybody else remember?
To reduce manufacturing costs the car manufacturers could always return to the transverse leaf spring arrangement. A single leaf spring across the rear axle with a wheel on each end. The TrIumph Herald/Spitfire had this arrangement and the rear camber angles got "very interesting" at times. You quickly learnt not to push it too hard into a corner.
I've looked at this website you keep pasting on the forum.That's right. My Toyota RAV4 2006 I purchased from a Japanese trading car platform (https://carfromjapan.com/cheap-used-toyota-rav4-for-sale-year2006) last year also has never met the same issue. Although it's a used car, everything seems great.