M54 CCV kit - which makes/suppliers are tried & tested

mrscalex

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Any recommendations for a decent make of CCV kit? There's a few cheapies out there with no brand on ebay plus Meyle & Febi. I was going to go for Meyle but I'm not even sure I want to go for that unless someone tells me they've tried & tested it. Meyle HD is good stuff - I'm less convinced on Meyle Standard & Febi for that matter.

I'm after a full kit like this.

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I am interested in this as well Robert - which engine is this for? I guess one of your M54s? I was going to go for a BMW original one not sure if the price difference is much compared to the Febi - Meyle ones. It´s just some plastic tube and a diaphragm with a spring - how hard can it be to manufacture hey ? :)
 

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Hello,
I’m interested in your comments regarding the use of MEYLE and Febi as alternative aftermarket parts for your car, I am UK Sales Manager for MEYLE, prior to this I worked for ZF/Lemforder For 15 years.
I can advise that Febi do have ‘some’ good quality parts, however I would always go for MEYLE if available, our quality standards are at the OE level, then I would say that wouldn’t I, lol.
MEYLE HD parts are optimised parts where the particular part in question has a history of premature failure, not all parts are HD as they don’t need to be.
HD is predominantly steering and suspension references, these parts will also give your car a suspension upgrade and include a 4 year unlimited mileage warranty.
Other parts to consider are the PD brakes, the discs are fully coated and also more importantly ‘HIGH CARBON’ allowing for quicker heat dispersion from the disc, the matching pads are heavy metal free and outperform the OE brake fade and performance.
I hope I have been able to offer a little more confidence in aftermarket parts as opposed to the OE, however, beware there are many aftermarket parts I wouldn’t dream of fitting onto my car.
I’m new to the forum but if I can be of any help or offer advice on parts please feel free to contact.
John
 

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If you look on meyle.com/online catalogue you can drill down to see what parts are available for your car, hope this helps.
 

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Changed the ccv back in May 2018 (6500 miles ago) used Meyle bought via eBay site. Took couple of hours to change found 2 of old hoses badly cracked. All parts fitted well , but a coule of day after engine was running rough----one of the electric plugs was not on -- my fault . Found quite a lot of oil in old system.

Just checked the original advert said Major German Manurfacturer I checked with the supplier (c3bmw) and they confirmed make. I seem to recall the parts and bags and name on and BMW part numbers. Quality seemed OK to me.
 
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Dakar Z3

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C3 BMW spares are a very well established parts supplier, only selling top brands, I know Simon and Kirby very well.
 

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To John from Meyle UK. I bet your company doesn't sell the correct road springs for the 2002 Z3 2.2 litre Sport model. They seem to be virtually unobtainable, even from BMW.
 

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Thanks @Dakar Z3 . I use Meyle parts frequently in my suspension rebuilds but I am aware of the difference between HD and standard and a little more cautious when using standard as it’s clearly not engineered to the same level. So far so good but I’ve never done a CCV as yet so caution time again.

But all things considered along with other feedback (thank you) I shall go for Meyle.

Cheeky ask. But perhaps your friends at C3 might like to think about a forum discount. For which I shall bring @GazHyde in as that should be arranged with him.
 

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To John from Meyle UK. I bet your company doesn't sell the correct road springs for the 2002 Z3 2.2 litre Sport model. They seem to be virtually unobtainable, even from BMW.
Very good ask there. @Dakar Z3 no one else makes -10mm Z3 Sport springs. I’m confident they would be a good seller if you did. We frequently discuss this issue on the forum.
 

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To John from Meyle UK. I bet your company doesn't sell the correct road springs for the 2002 Z3 2.2 litre Sport model. They seem to be virtually unobtainable, even from BMW.
Hello Mike (Bumpa),
I’ll come to you first, regarding the Sport version of road springs -10mm, you are quite right these springs are not available anymore, when I was at ZF, we manufactured the shockers front and rear for assembly line fit, however we did not manufacture the road springs. The front and rear shocks for both the standard suspension and the sport version are the exact same size in dimension.
The difference in both front and rear is internal, for those that don’t know inside the shock tube there is a pressure flow valve that controls the flow of oil inside the tube when the piston is compressed or extended, this determines the ride comfort, which is obviously stiffer on the sport version. Another myth is that a gas shock(in this case) is full of gas, ‘wrong’ it is a mix of oil and gas, an easy observation is if it is pure oil the piston will remain static when not under load (not fitted), if it is a gas shock the piston will automatically extend to its max length when not under load, if the gas piston does not extend when not under load, it’s time to change them.
Please note the shock does not have anything to do with ride height it is a ‘shock absorbing damper’ the ride height is governed by the springs. In many cases you can fit Standard shocks to a sport model if the outer tube casing is the same, it will just be less harsh ride comfort.
BACK TO THE SPRINGS, vehicles normally have a 15 year end of life parts availability Where the original manufacturer must keep the parts available for the said vehicle so in the Z3 case the year would be 2017/2018, I have also found that these springs are like hens teeth, ‘non existent’. There are many options of so called sports versions eg Beilsteins but the ride height is NOT the same as the OE spring. I myself have purchased spare second hand springs from a sport model (breaker) in case any of mine snap so I have a ready replacement to fit in the eventuality.
As I previously stated, I do not know the OE spring supplier, however I do know a manufacturer in Holland that make for Mercedes and BRABUS as well as several other OE marques that may manufacture as a set but I do not know what their minimum production run would be, if it was say 50 sets I may be able to get an identical set of springs made? As you can expect I would not be able to check at the moment, however when we get back to some sort of normality I may be able to find out.
I hope this helps...........
 

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Hello mrscalex,
I will speak with Kirby and Simon at C3 and of course ask to see if they would be willing to offer a discount for Z members, I hate to see anyone paying too much (getting ripped off).
There are also other alternatives, I have a distributor in ‘HALIFAX’ called AtoZ spares, they are a general aftermarket parts supplier, however the head buyer called Asam has already offered discount to other Z users for parts if they mention myself (John, MEYLE).
Please do not confuse ‘HALIFAX’ with Dewsbury or Wakefield, they are NOT connected.
 

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Thank you John for your detailed explanation regarding sport springs and dampers. At my Z3's test last December the tester found a broken rear spring. I asked him to change it and that's where the trouble began. Of course he couldn't source the correct springs, so to get the car back on the road I got him to fit a pair of normal length rear springs.

Then a couple of months later I was driving along and noticed a rubbing sound. Next thing there was bang and the nearside front tyre exploded. Fortunately I was doing less than 30 mph, so could stop safely. The front spring had snapped and the broken end went straight into the brand new tyre. After many shenanigans I ended up buying standard front springs and dampers.

Comparing a side-on photo of my car from when it had all sport springs with how it looks now, the front looks just the same, and the new standard spring was much less than 10mm longer than the good sport spring I removed. The rear does look slightly higher, but the car's handling and ride seems just the same to me, so it's OK.

The car is very hard riding anyway. Way, way back, the only way to make a car handle was to have almost solid springs, and BMW don't seem to have progressed from there. I used to own a 1971 Lotus Elan and that handled brilliantly, in fact you could corner at what seemed insane speeds with confidence, and all on 155 width tyres. But it also had long travel suspension and a decent ride for a very short light car. Why can't that be the norm now?
 

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I recall using a Ser 1 LR after we had fitted new springs (leaf) and Shockers . She would take any corner without any body movement,just like on rails. Off course the speed was not as quick.
That was my sons first LR , the next Ser 1 he went the whole hog --V8 motor -- Coils -- ect .

Put tears in my eyes now thinking of the various Ser 1's we cut up,now they are selling in 5 figures and good ones coming back from Australia.
 

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I recall using a Ser 1 LR after we had fitted new springs (leaf) and Shockers . She would take any corner without any body movement,just like on rails. Off course the speed was not as quick.
That was my sons first LR , the next Ser 1 he went the whole hog --V8 motor -- Coils -- ect .

Put tears in my eyes now thinking of the various Ser 1's we cut up,now they are selling in 5 figures and good ones coming back from Australia.
Did the same with Mk I/2 Escorts including RSs. It's a big part of why i won't break a Z3 now unless a project turns out to be a lost cause.
 
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