Aaron MacQ
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Couldn't resist a quick trial fit...
Tough call. They all look great...
Tough call. They all look great...
Looking for a Z (Now found & Built!)
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Aaron MacQ
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Aye, I'm not sure what they're called officially, but I know them as bolt through, which use longer bolts:
And the other type which bolt to the hub, then you bolt your wheels to the spacer itself:
Aaron MacQ
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Nothing new on the Palmetto 2.8 to report as it's too cold to work on anything, but I have news....
Must be something about looking at Z's in the snow, but I bought another one today!
It's a slightly tatty black on black '99 2.0 that I'm going to sort and move on in the spring for a bit of fun over the next few months.
Yes, a new bonnet roundel top of the list of parts to order!
I'll start a separate thread on this one when the time comes to get to work, but i've yet to decide what I want from the project.
I could just put it right, or take it a bit further and get it A+ or, ever since I drove a 2.0 last year (and was rather underwhelmed) I've wondered about how to make it go quicker and I've come up with a few ideas, but it'd blow the budget and probably kill any possible return.
Who knows, it'll be fun to see where this takes me....
Must be something about looking at Z's in the snow, but I bought another one today!
It's a slightly tatty black on black '99 2.0 that I'm going to sort and move on in the spring for a bit of fun over the next few months.
Yes, a new bonnet roundel top of the list of parts to order!I'll start a separate thread on this one when the time comes to get to work, but i've yet to decide what I want from the project.
I could just put it right, or take it a bit further and get it A+ or, ever since I drove a 2.0 last year (and was rather underwhelmed) I've wondered about how to make it go quicker and I've come up with a few ideas, but it'd blow the budget and probably kill any possible return.
Who knows, it'll be fun to see where this takes me....
Aaron MacQ
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Ah, the job list...Can’t wait to see some pics and the job list
I spent a bit of time today putting that together, but before I get started working on it I need to get the new roll hoops and the original 17's refitted on the green one, then ship it out to my dad's house to clear some garage workspace!
Hopefully get that sorted this weekend.
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Aaron MacQ
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Well, the weather was nice so I finally made a start on the Roll Hoop retro fit.
First up was to get the car out of the garage as I'ts a bit too cramped to do anything in there just now...
This is the first time I've been able to get a look at the 261's on the rear.
I like them. A great 'accidental' purchase. Just need to order some new spacers, but still unsure of what i need... it'll be somewhere between 20-35mm, and with the new ST coilovers, I would need to push the fronts out 3 or 5mm further than before so, 30mm currently looking like the most likely...
Anyway, time to get going... roof down, seats forward...
Start removing these hateful screw covers....
Pop the rear switch panel to access the lower screws... (although I've now realised I maybe didn't need to do this part, will explain later...)
Removing lots of screws from the black storage box...
Doh, forgot to undo the three rear screws before putting the roof down...
More of these things...grrr
Undo the lid...
And pull it away...
Lift this out...
Stare at this....
Now for the side bits (although again, I maybe didn't need to do this bit..)
You can just see those two lower screws...
You need three hands here, but you need to spread the sides of the rear console and pull it up an inch or so...
At the same time, pull the center box out ....
First up was to get the car out of the garage as I'ts a bit too cramped to do anything in there just now...
This is the first time I've been able to get a look at the 261's on the rear.
I like them. A great 'accidental' purchase. Just need to order some new spacers, but still unsure of what i need... it'll be somewhere between 20-35mm, and with the new ST coilovers, I would need to push the fronts out 3 or 5mm further than before so, 30mm currently looking like the most likely...
Anyway, time to get going... roof down, seats forward...
Start removing these hateful screw covers....
Pop the rear switch panel to access the lower screws... (although I've now realised I maybe didn't need to do this part, will explain later...)
Removing lots of screws from the black storage box...
Doh, forgot to undo the three rear screws before putting the roof down...
More of these things...grrr
Undo the lid...
And pull it away...
Lift this out...
Stare at this....
Now for the side bits (although again, I maybe didn't need to do this bit..)
You can just see those two lower screws...
You need three hands here, but you need to spread the sides of the rear console and pull it up an inch or so...
At the same time, pull the center box out ....
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Aaron MacQ
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Ah, with the upload limit, some of these photos are out of order, but should be clear enough what's going on...
Rear screws removed (should have been the first step...)
Now with the old and new center box on the floor beside each other, I've just realised they're exactly the same! The only difference is the lid bracket which is easily swapped over...
I had intended to swap the front storage box over (so that my key would still work) but it would probably make more sense if you were doing this mod in the future not to waste your time removing the box...
Anyway, next step is to remove the turret covers, although again, I now wonder if that's really necessary. You'll see later that you need need access to the Hoop securing screws, but two well drilled holes would give you all the access you need.... Anyway, I have the proper parts so we continue...
Screws out...
Undo the seatbelt from the seat and thread it back through.... and it's out...
See, side by side, that access panel (left) and the alternative wind deflector (right) is the only difference. If you don't have the right part a few holes in your current parts would do rightly...
Next, to remove the wind deflector mounts...
Ehh, I've just realised there's one screw missing from the deflector mounts, and what's this from???
Having now just checked the history, this was a dealer fitted option, not factory and this has probably been rattling about for the past 20 years...
Just thinking further, have we just found the source of the 'suspension' tapping noise??
Anyways, slide the mounts out...
And that's the strip out complete...
It's starting to get cold and dark, so i'll pick this up next time, when i get round to fitting the new bits...
Rear screws removed (should have been the first step...)
Now with the old and new center box on the floor beside each other, I've just realised they're exactly the same! The only difference is the lid bracket which is easily swapped over...
I had intended to swap the front storage box over (so that my key would still work) but it would probably make more sense if you were doing this mod in the future not to waste your time removing the box...
Anyway, next step is to remove the turret covers, although again, I now wonder if that's really necessary. You'll see later that you need need access to the Hoop securing screws, but two well drilled holes would give you all the access you need.... Anyway, I have the proper parts so we continue...
Screws out...
Undo the seatbelt from the seat and thread it back through.... and it's out...
See, side by side, that access panel (left) and the alternative wind deflector (right) is the only difference. If you don't have the right part a few holes in your current parts would do rightly...
Next, to remove the wind deflector mounts...
Ehh, I've just realised there's one screw missing from the deflector mounts, and what's this from???
Having now just checked the history, this was a dealer fitted option, not factory and this has probably been rattling about for the past 20 years...
Just thinking further, have we just found the source of the 'suspension' tapping noise??
Anyways, slide the mounts out...
And that's the strip out complete...
It's starting to get cold and dark, so i'll pick this up next time, when i get round to fitting the new bits...
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Aaron MacQ
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Now i've both boxes back in the house, I can swap either the center storage box, or the lid brackets...
Both look to be in great condition, but ones original to the car with some manufactured date labels, and the others from someone elses, probably scraped, so I'm choosing to swap the brackets...
More later....
Both look to be in great condition, but ones original to the car with some manufactured date labels, and the others from someone elses, probably scraped, so I'm choosing to swap the brackets...
More later....
Nice work Aaron, will no doubt help someone to this work in the future mate.
Tony.
Tony.
Aaron MacQ
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Well, swapping the brackets took about 2 mins...
On the wide box (non-hoops) the brackets are secured by two screws via the access holes in the rear, and on the hoop version, the brackets are secured via the tanneau cover pins and just fall out.
Remove, swap and reverse....done.
I'll hopefully get a bit of time tomorrow to finish this job and get the car out of my garage, clearing some space to get started on the other Z.
On the wide box (non-hoops) the brackets are secured by two screws via the access holes in the rear, and on the hoop version, the brackets are secured via the tanneau cover pins and just fall out.
Remove, swap and reverse....done.
I'll hopefully get a bit of time tomorrow to finish this job and get the car out of my garage, clearing some space to get started on the other Z.
Aaron MacQ
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Right, so I really wasn't feeling well today (man-flu) 
so, as you do, worked outside in the cold on the car instead...
Everything was going great until....
First up, I had to remove these brackets...
It was dirty, and well, nobody will ever see it, so I cleaned it spotless...
Slide in the first bracket...
Tight squesse to get at these bolts, but...
Not when you have this....
Brackets in...
Turret tops on...
Time for the box (our original)
And slide in the hoop version lid brackets...
Bolt them up...
Time for the tray...
That's alot of screws... I wonder how many will be left over???
Nearly there....
Time for the hoops???
Wtf, what's wrong with this picture?
Sanity check.... this is what I had bought off ebay.
Here's the ad...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322924304997
Have messaged the seller to see if a genuine mistake...
As you can clearly see, one of the hoops is date marked July '00 so not likely to have come from the '98 car advertised....
The other is indeed '98 and was definitely the one on the left of the ad photo (it still had the dirty mark and sticker from the photo...)
Rage...
so, as you do, worked outside in the cold on the car instead... Everything was going great until....
First up, I had to remove these brackets...
It was dirty, and well, nobody will ever see it, so I cleaned it spotless...
Slide in the first bracket...
Tight squesse to get at these bolts, but...
Not when you have this....
Brackets in...
Turret tops on...
Time for the box (our original)
And slide in the hoop version lid brackets...
Bolt them up...
Time for the tray...
That's alot of screws... I wonder how many will be left over???
Nearly there....
Time for the hoops???
Wtf, what's wrong with this picture?
Sanity check.... this is what I had bought off ebay.
Here's the ad...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322924304997
Have messaged the seller to see if a genuine mistake...
As you can clearly see, one of the hoops is date marked July '00 so not likely to have come from the '98 car advertised....
The other is indeed '98 and was definitely the one on the left of the ad photo (it still had the dirty mark and sticker from the photo...)
Rage...
Not great that i hope you get the required response and it put right
Aaron MacQ
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Yup, absolutely. Just waiting on a 10mm spacer to arrive so I can fit the fronts... (doesn't clear the coilovers without...)Forgot to add.. the accidental wheel purchase look good
Have also ordered a 30mm rear spacer, but not sure if that's going to be right long term...
Looking forward to the spring and getting this car out and about...
Aaron MacQ
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Update: just had a message from the eBay seller offering to swap one of the passenger hoops for the correct drivers side.
P&P free I trust ?
Tony.
Tony.
Aaron MacQ
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He didn't mention postage although was claiming that eBay had already taken the money from his account for a refund which seemed odd and I didn't think would be the case...
Anyway, sounds like a genuine mistake so won't worry about a few quid postage if he isn't willing to cover it. Just glad to be getting the right part...
