Interesting MoT yesterday

[abh29]

2500 miles last 12 month 2741 previous 12 month
Well she passed OK ----- but got 4 advisory
001 Valve Stem slightly damaged(All) DANGEROUS
002 Brake Disc Worn , pitted or scored but not serious weak Rear
003 NSR Handbrake cable corroded , casing damage
004 Underseal covering brake pipes and other components.

Surprised about the valve stems
The car was undersealed after comments about corrosion on last years MoT

 

[Tracy Dee]

Good news you have a pass.

 

[andyglym]

On the positive side your tester picked the issues up and you can now set to work ........ and a Pass

 

[Tfp]

Under seal on brake pipes, I presume they're just covering themselves because they can't see the condition of the pipes underneath.

 

[t-tony]

2500 miles last 12 month 2741 previous 12 month
Well she passed OK ----- but got 4 advisory
001 Valve Stem slightly damaged(All) DANGEROUS
002 Brake Disc Worn , pitted or scored but not serious weak Rear
003 NSR Handbrake cable corroded , casing damage
004 Underseal covering brake pipes and other components.

Surprised about the valve stems
The car was undersealed after comments about corrosion on last years MoT

He's covering his arse because he can no longer see the brake pipes to inspect them !

Tony.

 

[abh29]

On the positive side your tester picked the issues up and you can now set to work ........ and a Pass

I like this garage partly because they do a though job, I am not looking for a garage that's relaxed and let's thinks go. It really annoys me when I hear people say such a garage are great very rarely fail a car.
It does however puzzle me how they can grade the valve stems as DANGEROUS yet still pass the car. Capitals are on the MoT

 

[andyglym]

I like this garage partly because they do a though job, I am not looking for a garage that's relaxed and let's thinks go. It really annoys me when I hear people say such a garage are great very rarely fail a car.
It does however puzzle me how they can grade the valve stems as DANGEROUS yet still pass the car. Capitals are on the MoT

One for our resident MOT Testers.

 

[Stevo7682]

Out of curiosity have you changed or covered the tank straps ?
As they were advised last couple of years.
As an mot tester myself and i reckon @t-tony will probably agree with me here if your tyre valve stems are deteriorated enough that he has issued a dangerous ( on a failable item ) then they should have failed.
If you issue a dangerous against something that means it is not fit for use on the road .
On a mot there are very few items that you could issue a dangerous against and it not be a fail.
An example of this would be a badly worn centre propshaft bearing ( on something like a transit) not a testable item but potentially dangerous to drive so a dangerous could be issued without a fail .
But not in your case .
If the valves are that deteriorated that he has issued a dangerous they should have Failed.

 

[t-tony]

We had a guy in some years ago who had has had the same thing on his car. My old boss used his thumb to push the stem sidewards and it burst and obviously deflated the tyre quite quickly. Not too likey to happen on the road but it demonstrated how badly deteriorated the valve stems were. It would interesting what damage had occurred too.

Tony.

 

[billysally208]

Oh it's the tyre/wheel valve stems - I read it to start with as the cylinder head valve stems and was wondering how they picked up on that - doh!

 

[andyglym]

Oh it's the tyre/wheel valve stems - I read it to start with as the cylinder head valve stems and was wondering how they picked up on that - doh!

I'm laughing with you, me too

 

[abh29]

Out of curiosity have you changed or covered the tank straps ?
As they were advised last couple of years.
As an mot tester myself and i reckon @t-tony will probably agree with me here if your tyre valve stems are deteriorated enough that he has issued a dangerous ( on a failable item ) then they should have failed.
If you issue a dangerous against something that means it is not fit for use on the road .
On a mot there are very few items that you could issue a dangerous against and it not be a fail.
An example of this would be a badly worn centre propshaft bearing ( on something like a transit) not a testable item but potentially dangerous to drive so a dangerous could be issued without a fail .
But not in your case .
If the valves are that deteriorated that he has issued a dangerous they should have Failed.

Just to clarify I am not being critical of the garage ,they are working to a official system for the MoT. I was just very puzzled how the system allows it be "passed" with a "dangerous" fault.I would have no objections to the test be made more stringent,I look at it as a chance to get the car checked over by a person a lot more competent than me.This was very useful a couple of years ago--- unknowingly I had been driving with a broken rear Spring.
The tester knows me enough that I will replace the valves before further use of the car,just down it pop to my local tyres depot,2 miles away. It's odd that I have trouble with the valves as a couple of years ago I fitted a set of Alloy caps,they corroded onto the valves resulting in them having to be cut off and all valves replaced.
Straps were advised as still being ok ,just showing signs of corrosion.I take advice from the garage as regards rectification work on advisories ,on this occasion the rear discs and pads will be replaced,not sure if front should be changed at same time,will ask him. The braking has been below par recently,but still very good.
The car has been professional under sealed ,following cleaning and removal of the wheels and inner wheel arches,the doors were also injected , all using hot sprayed Waxoyl

 

[Stevo7682]

I'm sure your guys are reputable at the end of the day we're all human all I'm saying is that he should have either failed them or passed and advised as soon as you tick the dangerous box you as a tester are saying that part is dangerous to use on a public road and should be immediately rectified

 

[t-tony]

We had a guy in some years ago who had has had the same thing on his car. My old boss used his thumb to push the stem sidewards and it burst and obviously deflated the tyre quite quickly. Not too likey to happen on the road but it demonstrated how badly deteriorated the valve stems were. It would interesting what damage had occurred too.

Tony.

 

[abh29]

Just ordered the rear brakes off EuroCarParts seem reasonable priced

Pagid Brake Discs Rear £99.80
Pagid Brake Pads Rear £31.99
Pagid Wear Sensor Rear £17.49
Sub Total £149.46
Discount £71.76
Total inc VAT £77.70

Collect locally on Thursday

 

[handsomejackuk]

nice one.....

 

[abh29]

Just had the valves replaced --- Tester very much on the ball , they were all cracked and split.

Think I had better check the other cars next.

 

[t-tony]

Just had the valves replaced --- Tester very much on the ball , they were all cracked and split.

Think I had better check the other cars next.

Certainly better safe than sorry! Strange that they had deteriorated to that degree in only 2 years though, having said that there seems to be rubber items of questionable quality creeping into the tyre trade and you won't guess where it comes from. . . . . . . .

Tony.

 

[abh29]

From my point ,its why I prefer a tester who does check overthink , its my neck on the line [at least to start with]
Like tyres ---I was told as a lad those bits of rubber are your only connection between this world and the next.
I had always assumed the valves came from one of the big tyre manufacturers, my mistake .