In a right pickle ( of my own making )

[Nodzed]

anyone who has a module to sell then that would be great

Have you asked our resident breaker Andy @spurs fan in a coupe ?

 

[colb]

Risky with eBay, as Rob said they could be from salvaged cars that have been written off and have had airbags deployed so have the F0 internal error and locked up. Might be worth having a conversation with Abel on the Bimmer forum he is in Texas USA and has been fixing these modules for members as far afield as New Zealand and Australia. I will pm him on the forum and ask about fixing one of Marks.
Just pm’d Abel on Bimmer forum in the USA asking his view on way forward to sort this, he hopefully will offer a fix may require unit to be posted to him if he is still fixing them.

 

[colb]

Had the following reply from Abel in Houston Texas the Bimmerforum expert on airbag module fixing, as follows
Hello,

These are mendable if you can tell that the problem was caused by an auxiliary component in the airbag system. For your case specifically, if you get the error frequency for the tensioners and occupancy sensor, it would give you a hint that it's not the module that has a problem, but rather an accessory. For example, if a tensioner error has 150+++ hits of the same error, then I would mend that component and have the airbag module cleared of the F0 fault.

I still clear these, and have cleared them for international users here and there.
There aren't many people clearing these since the process involves communicating directly to the microcontroller.

-Abel

Mark has left a module with a local lecky who thinks he can sort it, if not Abel might get it in the post to work his magic on it, tempted to buy the kit to read the eeprom and have a go myself after finding out how it’s done, not dissimilar to coding keys regarding the data files.

 

[bombur]

Had the following reply from Abel in Houston Texas the Bimmerforum expert on airbag module fixing, as follows
Hello,

These are mendable if you can tell that the problem was caused by an auxiliary component in the airbag system. For your case specifically, if you get the error frequency for the tensioners and occupancy sensor, it would give you a hint that it's not the module that has a problem, but rather an accessory. For example, if a tensioner error has 150+++ hits of the same error, then I would mend that component and have the airbag module cleared of the F0 fault.

I still clear these, and have cleared them for international users here and there.
There aren't many people clearing these since the process involves communicating directly to the microcontroller.

-Abel

Mark has left a module with a local leaky who thinks he can sort it, if not Abel might get it in the post to work his magic on it, tempted to buy the kit to read the eeprom and have a go myself after finding out how it’s done, not dissimilar to coding keys regarding the data files.

Im happy to contribute a little if you are purchasing Col

 

[milkomark]

Thank you to all concerned. I feel I have a lot of support.

 

[colb]

Have done a bit more research on Marks airbag module problems, it appears from looking at oem site that his car using his Vin number left the factory with module 65776908896. Now when Mark got the car it had airbag light on and he took the module that was in the car out and found it to be part no 65778386192, obtained two used modules with same number only to find both have F0 code and were locked up. Original one he took out was disposed of so is lost. Now consulting the oem site it transpires that 896 module canntot be exchanged retrospectively with a 192 module however 192 can be exchanged for a 896. Looks like @spurs fan in a coupe may come up with a replacement, watch this space for developments.

 

[colb]

Update on @milkomark airbag light problem which I solved today.
Having researched what airbag module the car was built with by checking Realoem site I noted it was a different part number to the one Mark originally took out and binned, the replacements he got from ebay were the same part numbers as the binned one. Neither would code to the car and both came up with F0 Internal Error. These have obviously come from crashed cars and the modules will have crash data in them which locks them up and generates the F0 code. These modules need the eeprom chip reading and clearing the crash data with software like CarProg.
@spurs fan in a coupe came up with a good used module with the correct part number that should have been fitted to Marks car so we set about fitting that. Before fitting the module we lifted the seats and checked both pretentioners resistance as they had shown codes when the wrong module was fitted. Both passed the test showing less than 1 on the meter one showed .5 and the other .4. Module then fitted in place and battery reconnected and a charger put on to maintain the voltage for coding. Inpa loaded and a quick look at the Airbag module showed all airbags intact and pretensioners, no codes visible but codes cleared which put the airbag light out which had remained on when we switched on. Inpa closed and NCSExpert loaded and I coded the new module to the car using the data held on the car in the EWS module. Coding completed and airbag light was out, numerous tests with the ignition on and off and airbag light now behaving normally.
May have a punt at getting the software to read the eeprom in Marks duff modules, had a look inside and the chip is a tight fit with other componants so would be a challenge to use wires to pin out to the chip reader or remove it and connect it into a chip holder to get it read.
Mark will be putting in a new camshaft sensor and replacing the cam cover gasket, still got to have his new outer sills painted and fitted so still a fair bit of work to do. At least the airbag problem has been sorted.

 

[bombur]

Thats great news

 

[spurs fan in a coupe]

Update on @milkomark airbag light problem which I solved today.
Having researched what airbag module the car was built with by checking Realoem site I noted it was a different part number to the one Mark originally took out and binned, the replacements he got from ebay were the same part numbers as the binned one. Neither would code to the car and both came up with F0 Internal Error. These have obviously come from crashed cars and the modules will have crash data in them which locks them up and generates the F0 code. These modules need the eeprom chip reading and clearing the crash data with software like CarProg.
@spurs fan in a coupe came up with a good used module with the correct part number that should have been fitted to Marks car so we set about fitting that. Before fitting the module we lifted the seats and checked both pretentioners resistance as they had shown codes when the wrong module was fitted. Both passed the test showing less than 1 on the meter one showed .5 and the other .4. Module then fitted in place and battery reconnected and a charger put on to maintain the voltage for coding. Inpa loaded and a quick look at the Airbag module showed all airbags intact and pretensioners, no codes visible but codes cleared which put the airbag light out which had remained on when we switched on. Inpa closed and NCSExpert loaded and I coded the new module to the car using the data held on the car in the EWS module. Coding completed and airbag light was out, numerous tests with the ignition on and off and airbag light now behaving normally.
May have a punt at getting the software to read the eeprom in Marks duff modules, had a look inside and the chip is a tight fit with other componants so would be a challenge to use wires to pin out to the chip reader or remove it and connect it into a chip holder to get it read.
Mark will be putting in a new camshaft sensor and replacing the cam cover gasket, still got to have his new outer sills painted and fitted so still a fair bit of work to do. At least the airbag problem has been sorted.

Glad the airbag ecu did the job for you mate

 

[milkomark]

Good Morning all,
thank you all so very much for all your help and support. Special thanks of course to @Spursfan in a coupe for sending the correct module and at a very fair price indeed, much appreciated. And of course to Colin who has used much of his spare time and petrol to get to where we are now. Without Colin's help I don't know where I would be. I'm very grateful. I owe you a big favour Colin. It's sad really but, I enjoy just turning the ignition on now and not seeing the airbag light . Lets hope it continues. On to the next phase now. One day I might even get it on the road. Regards to all.

 

[Stevo7682]

Good news that problem is now sorted
Stephen