Difficult to evaluate yourself, however, I'll have to go for a cheeky 8. Class 2 (in old money) since 85 and an on road and off road emergency response driver since 86. Left, right and centre drive. 4x4, 6x4, 6x6 up to 35 footer 30 ton fire appliances. Auto, manual, semi auto. For balance my offspring think I'm rubbish because I drive slow ........ at the speed limit, unless my Zed is out of course 

