Had my Z3 for a year - now it's time to fix it up

Jim Black

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Hi there,

We bought our Z3 last March - its a 1999, 1.8 - as a weekend fun car. Only thing we did was put on the original pepper pot alloys - what a difference that made to the looks an handling of the car. It's only done 75k and its in decent condition given its age.

Decided on the Z3 after looking at numerous MX5s, hoping that the rust issue that meant the demise of our first convertible had been resolved in newer models. Well the rusting problem with MX5s has not been solved.

Came across the ad for the Z3 and fell for it straight away. For its age it has not dated at all and still looks fantastic. The car has a complete service history and has been well looked after. Even had the original wheels with four good tyres.

So far so good.

The plan is to start tidying the car up. But, sadly it failed its MOT with:

- headlight adjustment out
- hole in exhaust
- failed lambda emission test (probably due to the hole in the exhaust)
- brake cable clips missing

So now getting that sorted out - not straightforward so far.

Back to the tidying up - and any advice or suggestion appreciated:

Hood - botched replacement window job has meant the fabric has separated out from the window gasket in several places. Been quoted £800 for a new hood. My idea is to try and glue the fabric back in using epoxy resin and a syringe. The hood itself in reasonable condition apart from the green mould. I tried the Autoglym cleaner but it was pretty ineffective.

Am I better to bite the (expensive) bullet on the hood or is it worth attempting a repair and an alternative cleaner? I see that there's a company in Swansea who will do a new hood for much cheaper.

Bodywork
- overall the bodywork is in ok condition. Being black there are numerous scratches which according to the folks in Halfords many will come out with one of the magic rubbing polishes. There are a couple of sizable stone chips - called chips away - about as much use a chocolate teapot!

There's a couple of rust problems. First is at the rear of the cill on the passenger side. Its now starting to extend inside the wheel arch. Second is a slight bubble at the drivers side rear wing - just at the join between the lower and upper wing. Its tiny but know that if I leave it it will just get worse. Las one is just cosmetic - the mounting thingy for the drivers mirror is bubbling.

So would it be better to just get a local bodyshop to fix these bits and pieces or try and fix up myself? Any advice on the best scratch removal polish to use. I have access to an electric polisher which may or may not help.

We are in Central Scotland close to Edinburgh in case anyone wants to recommended garages and so on.

I'm looking forward to learning from all the experts on the forum.

Thanks,

Jim
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Nodzed

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BMBabe

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Quote for new hood is crazy money maybe the Scottish chaps know someone else :thumbsup:
 

Jjim

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Hi, welcome from Mansfield :thumbsup:

Nice looking Zed.

The MOT failures look straight forward fixes. So you should be okay there.

I had a similar issue with my roof. Even tried having a new screen fitted - waste of time for me as the zip teeth on the hood side were knackered. I went to Jack Smith in Swansea for a new black hood. Cost me £300 and done in about 2hrs. Very happy with it. The screen is also stitched in so at least I know it won’t start falling out.

Hope someone on here is able to recommend a garage (@Stevo7682 ??)
 

t-tony

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Hi Jim and welcome from me near Lincoln. Not sure why your car would fail on brake cable clips?

Tony.
 

ZTec

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Hello and welcome from the Vale of Glamorgan. As @Jim said previously Jack Smith trimmers in Swansea does good work @PHILIP BAXTER has had his done and looks great, I’m getting mine done soon.
 

Jim Black

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Hi Jim and welcome from me near Lincoln. Not sure why your car would fail on brake cable clips?

Tony.
Tony, to be honest I used an Online Service called Who Can Fix my Car to find a garage to do the MOT as I've just moved to the area. The garage I went have been quite poor - for example they said they can't price the exhaust without seeing the car again!! Any time I've had a fail before garage has a quote ready faster than you can say "what did the car fail on....". I may go and get the exhaust checked at the garage I used to use before I moved and get them to fix that and re-do the test. Just proves cheapest isn't always the best.

Jim
 

Jim Black

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Hi, welcome from Mansfield :thumbsup:

Nice looking Zed.

The MOT failures look straight forward fixes. So you should be okay there.

I had a similar issue with my roof. Even tried having a new screen fitted - waste of time for me as the zip teeth on the hood side were knackered. I went to Jack Smith in Swansea for a new black hood. Cost me £300 and done in about 2hrs. Very happy with it. The screen is also stitched in so at least I know it won’t start falling out.

Hope someone on here is able to recommend a garage (@Stevo7682 ??)
At £300 its a bit of no-brainer. Thanks for the recommendation. Off now to plot the route to Swansea!!
 

Jim Black

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Hello and welcome from the Vale of Glamorgan. As @Jim said previously Jack Smith trimmers in Swansea does good work @PHILIP BAXTER has had his done and looks great, I’m getting mine done soon.
Just spoke to Jack himself. £300 fitted as stated. Ok so its a bit of a hike but that's less than half the price of the local price. And I've never been to Swansea. Will try a quick repair this weekend just to keep the water out.
 

t-tony

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Hi Jim, you won't necessarily need to replace the exhaust right now. Stopping the leak of gasses should cure the high Lambda reading .

Tony.

ps. I'm a tester myself mate.
 

Jim Black

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Hi Jim, you won't necessarily need to replace the exhaust right now. Stopping the leak of gasses should cure the high Lambda reading .

Tony.

ps. I'm a tester myself mate.
Thanks Tony,

It's making quite a bit of noise which I can't recall it making before the MOT. That said Its not been used that much the past month due to the beast from the east so it may just have split. Tomorrow will tell when I try the garage I normally use.

As you may tell I'm not that mechanically minded, I just really like the experience of open top driving!
 

t-tony

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If it's near the front mate it will sound worse than it is. Hope you get it sorted ok.

Tony
 

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Hello and welcome to the forum. You'll enjoy your time in Swansea, there's some great bars and eateries. Our son was at uni there and we were frequent visitors.
If you can get underneath your car you might be able to put some exhaust putty and exhaust repair bandage on the hole or split. It's a cheap and easy fix and will last a good time too
 

PHILIP BAXTER

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Hi, and welcome from me in Cardiff. I am very pleased with my new top from Jack Smith trimmers. Bargain at £300. When are you going to get it done Jim?
 

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Hi and welcome from me in South Ayrshire
As you have already found out hoods are very dear up here .
Swansea is a good bet at the cost even with the hotel and they drive it will still be cheaper
As for a garage near you in I'm a South Ayrshire so somebody like at @BillyB would probably be able to recommend somebody closer to you as he is in Edinburgh.
Your MOT fails don't look too bad exhaust will be the worse thing and depends what's wrong with it and like you've said will probably sort the Lambda once fixed the rest of the failures should be fairly straightforward
Is there any chance of you putting some pictures up of the damage to the roof I have managed to repair my wife's roof which was quite badly damaged it's ended up a reasonable standard so may be able to suggest something if can see what's wrong.
 
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