Sadly not just gutter press Ian - it's the lynch mob mentality that social media now accelerates faster than ever before...............Now, the next time our gutter press use s drone I think it might be used for target practice
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So after the police release the two "suspects" in the Gatwick drone affair it now appears that they think it has all been one big mistake.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...d-gatwick-were-mistaken/ar-BBRmi89?li=BBoPWjQ
BUT, it is also being made public that Ministers are expecting that Al Queda are regrouping and may be about to use just such tactics to bring down Airliners.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...ty-minister-warns/ar-BBRk4xG?li=AAnZ9Ug&pfr=1
If this is correct and Police were made aware you have to conclude they did the right thing this week. I wouldn't have wanted to make the choice .......... would you?
Tony.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...d-gatwick-were-mistaken/ar-BBRmi89?li=BBoPWjQ
BUT, it is also being made public that Ministers are expecting that Al Queda are regrouping and may be about to use just such tactics to bring down Airliners.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...ty-minister-warns/ar-BBRk4xG?li=AAnZ9Ug&pfr=1
If this is correct and Police were made aware you have to conclude they did the right thing this week. I wouldn't have wanted to make the choice .......... would you?
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Government were warned and already knew that toy drones would be sold to the public and the risks having purchased drones and used for some time by our forces. Now if you have something which is valuable in your arsenal the worst thing that can happen is that someone else developes something that can take control of it. When civilians are sold something similar to your weapon things get awkward.So your new weapon could now be obsolete sooner rather than later. Don’t believe all you read in the press as your most likely to be fed exactly what the authorities want you to know. Eye in the sky is something we all gonna have to live with even if your worried about your privacy. Shame they’ve been sold to the public before they’ve outlived there usefulness in defence. We probably have something already that can zap them but they’re just not ready to disclose it. Now maybe there’s your problem, it’s there but it can’t be used in this instance as it will give away the fact. To disguise this fact they can use the police and top draw forces to make it look like we haven’t any other means, to them it’s just an inconvenience that your flights been cancelled, do you honestly think they can’t control these drones if they want to, I believe they can but won’t/can’t. These drones are not just a toy anymore, they’re a gun with the firing pin removed.
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Tony we only know what they want us to know. There’s always a bigger picture and most of the time we’re fed with what might keep us happy. IMO.always the pessimist.
. probably the Authorities just trying out a new version of the toy drone. 
Roy.
This is what I was trying to say in the beginning. There was never any proof anything happened only speculation. All we know is somthing big went on becuase to make the decision to call in the Army is not taken lightly. We’ll never know what happened. I had various friends working up there when the incident happened and most of them was told to leave and go home, most of these people have access all areas becuase of their job.
Makes you think.
Makes you think.
Oh I do love a good conspiracy......
Just one thing. Which government department head is going to authorise such a massive level of disruption in order to get something banned? That is the mobile phone! These things can be built on your kitchen table from commercially available components used in many things. It’s an impossible task to remove them from public use.
If it were a planned exercise by HMG it would be a massive risk that could have been far more effective at a small strip by damaging a light aircraft. Causing hundreds of millions of pounds damage at such a sensitive time of year would be an unmanageable risk.
The technology employed on military drones will be massively different to that in retail ones - it will be hardened against interference. Will have protection against power overload and rf intermodulation components from co-channel interference. They will use agile frequency hopping burst mode radio systems using encrypted satellite and other frequencies. These systems are also stand-off that have way better optics than you can buy. The only small systems the military would be interested in would be the tiny ones you won’t see and used in covert and close quarter use. The police and fire service use commercially available drones. They are cheap aerial monitors. Disposable even compared to running helicopters at thousands of pounds per hour.
They will have considered that there was a real, immediate and credible threat here. It shows that despite warnings that the civil authorities over recent years CAA and airport owners were woefully prepared for such an easily manageable threat. They were relying on legislation only.
All you need to do to disable commercially available drones is destroy their command, control and communications capability. You don’t need to damage the drone itself - just make it unable to fly. If you have a little radio knowledge, it is child’s play.
Shooting things down though makes a good story.
Just one thing. Which government department head is going to authorise such a massive level of disruption in order to get something banned? That is the mobile phone! These things can be built on your kitchen table from commercially available components used in many things. It’s an impossible task to remove them from public use.
If it were a planned exercise by HMG it would be a massive risk that could have been far more effective at a small strip by damaging a light aircraft. Causing hundreds of millions of pounds damage at such a sensitive time of year would be an unmanageable risk.
The technology employed on military drones will be massively different to that in retail ones - it will be hardened against interference. Will have protection against power overload and rf intermodulation components from co-channel interference. They will use agile frequency hopping burst mode radio systems using encrypted satellite and other frequencies. These systems are also stand-off that have way better optics than you can buy. The only small systems the military would be interested in would be the tiny ones you won’t see and used in covert and close quarter use. The police and fire service use commercially available drones. They are cheap aerial monitors. Disposable even compared to running helicopters at thousands of pounds per hour.
They will have considered that there was a real, immediate and credible threat here. It shows that despite warnings that the civil authorities over recent years CAA and airport owners were woefully prepared for such an easily manageable threat. They were relying on legislation only.
All you need to do to disable commercially available drones is destroy their command, control and communications capability. You don’t need to damage the drone itself - just make it unable to fly. If you have a little radio knowledge, it is child’s play.
Shooting things down though makes a good story.
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Well would you believe miscommunication was flying over Gatwick stopping aeroplanes taking off, according to HMG. This is just hilarious.
Conspiracy???
Fools look on etc. The Government couldn’t organise a conspiracy even though they tried, just not clever enough.
Makes it so hard to put a tick the right box when there just isn’t a right one. God help us all.
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Conspiracy???
Fools look on etc. The Government couldn’t organise a conspiracy even though they tried, just not clever enough.
Makes it so hard to put a tick the right box when there just isn’t a right one. God help us all.
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Or was it one of these.......
well it wasn't me.
that one i got sold down the pub,,.... well I still can't get to work
that one i got sold down the pub,,.... well I still can't get to work
Police are asking if anyone has information surrounding the following suspect:
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I just received this from my club. I'm sure that it will mean there are no more instances of illegal flying 
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"The CAA have dropped a bombshell on the BMFA (and hence all the members) by issuing a consultation (CAP1775) on the proposed drone registration fee without any prior notice to the BMFA. The proposal is for a yearly fee of £16.50 with the requirement for some sort of online test of competency. Incidentally the £16.50 is based on 170,000 registrations in the first 18 months!!!! If they do not get this number then what are the odds on the cost going up?
The BMFA have asked that members should respond to this consultation and the more who respond the better. Therefore please do NOT ignore this. Go to the BMFA website, read what the BMFA have said and respond to the consultation.
Note that we are all affected by this proposal because it includes model aircraft.
You may say that the CAA /government will ignore any responses and impose the registration anyway but unless you make your views known then that IS what will happen.
Please do not delay. The closing date for comments is 7 June 2019"
..."The CAA have dropped a bombshell on the BMFA (and hence all the members) by issuing a consultation (CAP1775) on the proposed drone registration fee without any prior notice to the BMFA. The proposal is for a yearly fee of £16.50 with the requirement for some sort of online test of competency. Incidentally the £16.50 is based on 170,000 registrations in the first 18 months!!!! If they do not get this number then what are the odds on the cost going up?
The BMFA have asked that members should respond to this consultation and the more who respond the better. Therefore please do NOT ignore this. Go to the BMFA website, read what the BMFA have said and respond to the consultation.
Note that we are all affected by this proposal because it includes model aircraft.
You may say that the CAA /government will ignore any responses and impose the registration anyway but unless you make your views known then that IS what will happen.
Please do not delay. The closing date for comments is 7 June 2019"
the affect will be upon everyone, except those who want to do the illegal things.
The people that they are trying to catch, will be the ones not registered, and not paying.
The argument below is using the same logic:
Register and charge a fee for everyone that has a kitchen knife, because it will stop the ones that misuse them.....
It's b*******s. and it's flawed.
As usual the honest suffer for the acts of the dishonest
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Yep, I've just looked at my cooking knives. I reckon I'll either be arrested or charged a huge amount in tax for owning them....
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Like I said, the Gov missed the boat on legislation against this this new super toy, now trying to catch up as these drones are so versatile they will quickly become a problem to our national security. A licence is just the start.
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Disruption of an airport is one thing. flying a drone into a prison with drugs and phones is another. but once someone decides that the carrier of choice for an explosive device is not a person or a vehicle, which could be stopped, searched or shot, then this problem will be far worse, and no amount of registration or fees will prevent that.
You can fly one from 5 miles away over the nearest stadium or large gathering.
Armed forces have been using unmanned, but 'equipped' drones, for years to get close to targets.
We all have driving licences, insurance and car tax, but that has never stopped a terrorist driving into a crowd of people.
You can fly one from 5 miles away over the nearest stadium or large gathering.
Armed forces have been using unmanned, but 'equipped' drones, for years to get close to targets.
We all have driving licences, insurance and car tax, but that has never stopped a terrorist driving into a crowd of people.
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Bacon could be our savour!
Tony.
Tony.