Fossil fuel and green house gas troubles (Take a look please)

LeoIWH

LeoIWH

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British Zeds
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Hi everyone, if you have been looking in the news or on your feed, many of them have to do with consumption of fossil fuel and the ice melting and you also may see many petitions to end all the consumption and just heard my friend talking about many fracking protests happening in the UK, and Brexit is s*** so far +2040 new petrol diesel ban, so what is everyone's opinion on the fossil fuel and the z3 + classic car market???

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(uk answer) My very own opinion on prediction is really a slow decline and a possible plummet on price or value on most used car (petrol or diesel) by 2040 or earlier, a small dealer is probably facing many troubles rn
 
22 years seems along time in the future but it will be here sooner than we think and probably before we're ready Leo.

Tony.
 
Space, 1999. It's a long way off yet as their's to much money in black gold for the Oil companies and tax revenues. Where is the supply coming from, as it stands today and for some time not wind or solar as the technology and infrastructure is not yet and will not be ready for years. Cottage industry at best.

We're sorry but the M6 Southbound will be closed for 8 hours as it's dark and their's no wind.

It will come of course but it's years off yet
 
Goeiemorgen LeoIWH ....

A lot of larger older cars over here in the Netherlands run on LPG (liquefied petroleum gas) but the problem would be in getting a decent size tank in the boot of the Z.

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Goeiemorgen LeoIWH ....

A lot of larger older cars over here in the Netherlands run on LPG (liquefied petroleum gas) but the problem would be in getting a decent size tank in the boot of the Z.

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Looks like ditching the passenger seat ……...

"sorry love, you've got to stay home today or buy your own Zed"
 
My thoughts:
In 1973 there were cries of "running out of oil", turned out to be rubbish.
The UK landscape was greatly formed by ice covering it. Not good for motoring.
Australia's average temperature is over 10 degrees more than the UK, very desirable for top down motoring.
If you want to live with a sea view, buy a house boat.
Petrol is for cars, diesel for trucks, electricity for washing machines.
The world has constantly changed over millions of years, getting warmer is far more desirable than getting colder.
Live 'till you die.
In all, the global warming people are as convincing as Chamberlains "peace in our time" in 1938.
To answer the original question, classic cars, including Z3s, are here to stay.
Just my humble opinions of course.:)
 
Where I live at the moment is at the bottom of a glaciated valley, until the end of the last ice age around 11000 years ago you'd have been under a few hundred feet of ice, and it had been that way for around 100,000 years. Or so the experts say. The Irish Sea, the North Sea and the English Channel were almost entirely dry land with a few rivers dotted around the place. Then along came a climate change and the sea-level rose. Bear this in mind next time you're on a lovely sandy beach, or gazing out over an estuary at low tide, none of that existed just a few thousand years ago. Things change, regardless of what some people with invested interests say. And I'm sure I remember "experts" warning us back in the seventies that we were heading towards another ice-age.
 
All I know is that taxing the middle class to the point of poverty will solve all the problems, well that's my interpretation of it.

Going nuclear in Australia would actually solve all our issues, we have the uranium, we have the space to build, we have to site to dispose of non-reusable waste, provides constant and reliable energy, will improve business, greatly reduces the reliance on fossil fuels, VERY safe to build reactors these days, etc. But what do I know? I only have common sense.

Oh, BTW, when a barrel of oil is taken from the ground almost 50% of it is diesel. That cannot change. So, by banning diesel engines you create excess fuel oil with a shrinking market. Consider the consequence world.

Cheers,
 
Cooper said:
All I know is that taxing the middle class to the point of poverty will solve all the problems, well that's my interpretation of it.

Going nuclear in Australia would actually solve all our issues, we have the uranium, we have the space to build, we have to site to dispose of non-reusable waste, provides constant and reliable energy, will improve business, greatly reduces the reliance on fossil fuels, VERY safe to build reactors these days, etc. But what do I know? I only have common sense.

Oh, BTW, when a barrel of oil is taken from the ground almost 50% of it is diesel. That cannot change. So, by banning diesel engines you create excess fuel oil with a shrinking market. Consider the consequence world.

Cheers,
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Nuclear has a lot to offer, clean, reliable and dependable 24/7/365. Stick in a bit of renewables (wind, solar, tidal etc) and job done.
 
@LeoIWH - what is the electric motor from in your photo?
 
There has been global warming and ice age cycles on this planet for 10s of millions of years, scientific proven fact! how long exactly has the human race been here :rolleyes::rolleyes: This cycle will continue for another 10s of millions of years long after my Zeds have stopped polluting the planet! (or humans are populating it)

Humans influencing the global climate?? :meh::meh::meh: Now plastics! Don't get me started on plastics. :mad:
 
Nodzed said:
There has been global warming and ice age cycles on this planet for 10s of millions of years, scientific proven fact! how long exactly has the human race been here :rolleyes::rolleyes: This cycle will continue for another 10s of millions of years long after my Zeds have stopped polluting the planet! (or humans are populating it)

Humans influencing the global climate?? :meh::meh::meh: Now plastics! Don't get me started on plastics. :mad:
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I quite agree with the first part but although the current hysteria on plastics is overdone, we do have a problem with irresponsible idiots who cannot take the trouble to dispose of things properly.
 
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I quite agree with the first part but although the current hysteria on plastics ia overdone, we do have a problem with irresponsible idiots who cannot take the trouble to dispose of things properly.
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Hmm not sure about that Mike here's just one photo of a plume in the Caribbean, there's hundred more in all the other seas one of the biggest measuring miles in in the pacific. Scary stuff.

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There's a combination of issues within this.

Some of it is having plastic based products forced upon you when its not needed (or the product benefits are pushed but not the consequences of its use) and also plastics embedded within products such as micro-beads in cosmetics and washing products.

Some problems are caused by the clothes we use shedding man made fibres into waste water from washing them. If you have a dryer that doesn't vent to outside you will have a filter that catches these during the drying progress. We get a tennis ball size fluff ball from a weeks wash. Typically that and more goes down the drain. These are the most problematic forms of pollution because they get straight into the food chain.
The larger items are a combination of personal disposal and by those we employ to manage our waste not doing so effectively.

Like most things is this world, there isn't a single cause but many, each needing different action. Actions that should be taken and enforced by those governing us - but instead, they are off pursuing their own self interest.
There is only so much we as individuals can do. But, every little helps.

It can all be managed and growing problems reduced to protect this small blue ball floating in space. Things will survive of course, but such a drastic change will have many unintended consequences. The Darwin effect will win out. Despite their intelligence, humans may not in the long term be among the winners if we continue to poison the air and water that we all need.
 
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