Fatal RTA.

t-tony

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Yesterday at 5.00pm at Gate Burton a couple of miles away towards Gainsborough.
Two vehicles crashed "head on" . Man, 40 and woman 39 in an Astra both dead at scene and woman, 40 in an M5 taken to hospital.
A young man we know from Marton was over taken on his way home by one of the drivers and both he and his friend said we'll see that idiot in the hedge bottom. 2 miles later they came across the accident. As the road was blocked the police came back asking if anyone had seen the way the car was being driven. Which makes me wonder, can the police "commandeer" any Dashcam cards? Or, do they have to "request" them?

Tony.
 
I know they can confiscate your mobile phone if your videoing an incident as it’s evidence. In RTA stuff though if I had footage I would hand it over but not the actual device though.
 
I wouldn’t object to downloading the clip(s) from the card but I would not want to hand over my memory card.

Tony.
 
Like I said, a copy. Wouldn't have thought any reasonable policeman would complain much about that, not as if any prosecution for tw*ttish driving is going to happen immediately. I've met a few d*ckheads in blue suits, mind.:whistle:
 
I've been to a few of these over the years, never pleasant, when all said and done 2 people have lost their lives, tragic :(
 
I would suggest that the police would ask for the device and they would download it as any evidence sent to them may be weakened as evidence on the possibility that it has been corrupted/edited.
 
t-tony said:
Yesterday at 5.00pm at Gate Burton a couple of miles away towards Gainsborough.
Two vehicles crashed "head on" . Man, 40 and woman 39 in an Astra both dead at scene and woman, 40 in an M5 taken to hospital.
A young man we know from Marton was over taken on his way home by one of the drivers and both he and his friend said we'll see that idiot in the hedge bottom. 2 miles later they came across the accident. As the road was blocked the police came back asking if anyone had seen the way the car was being driven. Which makes me wonder, can the police "commandeer" any Dashcam cards? Or, do they have to "request" them?

Tony.
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Very sad
 
Some forces now have a website you can send footage from your dashcam of any inconsiderate driving and if they agree will speak to the person concerned , perhaps you could download any accident footage to one these sites
 
This is horrendous. We have first hand experience. We were hit head on by someone on the wrong side of the road - I've no idea what speed the other car was doing - I don't remember anything. I was sat in the passenger seat and ended up with the engine and gearbox of a Peugeot 405 (not a small car) smashed through the front of the car by my feet. The rest of the whole of the front of the car was taken clean off.
Gail was badly injured - unbelievably, I only broke a tooth! That was in the days before air-bags.

I would gladly give the police the card to ensure that (if it can be) that justice is done. The innocent people involved deserve it.
I can't imagine the police would go looking for any other evidence to hold against you. It wouldn't be in the public interest to do so unless they had good cause to do so.
 
Police will always ask someone to volunteer their footage and generally no one will refuse. If it were to happen then there’s provision under Section 19 PACE to seize the whole unit provided the officers have a lawful power to search. As fatals are always initially investigated as worst case (every fatal collision is a potential murder) all avenues are covered. If someone refused their footage and we’re present before or during the collision, one could draw suspicion that they are involved...and seize the whole vehicle including the dash cam!

so short answer: yes they can take it anyway, but it’s very unlikely to be necessary. Someone offering to produce the footage is a perfectly adequate and reasonable way of obtaining the footage. After all, they are a witness until they’re not!
 
Mac Romans said:
Police will always ask someone to volunteer their footage and generally no one will refuse. If it were to happen then there’s provision under Section 19 PACE to seize the whole unit provided the officers have a lawful power to search. As fatals are always initially investigated as worst case (every fatal collision is a potential murder) all avenues are covered. If someone refused their footage and we’re present before or during the collision, one could draw suspicion that they are involved...and seize the whole vehicle including the dash cam!

so short answer: yes they can take it anyway, but it’s very unlikely to be necessary. Someone offering to produce the footage is a perfectly adequate and reasonable way of obtaining the footage. After all, they are a witness until they’re not!
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How does it work if, as here, someone doesn't witness the incident itself, but has evidence of prior actions that constitute a lead up to the accident? It doesn't prove anything at the site of the accident but does show actions that themselves show dangerous driving immediately beforehand, and that, in all likelihood. corroborates anything from the scene.

Accidents happen. But information indicating that a driver had been driving in a dangerous way beforehand shows a blatant disregard for the law that resulted in death and/or injury just moments later. Could evidence be seized in the same way?

The fear is that other evidence of the driver themselves slightly breaking the limit could be used against them when they are trying to help police secure a conviction against a much worse driver.
 
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