Thanks again mate much appreciated,I'll have a look at themI use the 3m pads from ultimate finish. They are around 3 or 4 inch and i use a 3 or 4 inch backing plate. Since i met up with Russell O who is a detailing expert on this site he recommended them and i now only use them. I also only use the 3m compounds as they are straight forward. Not cheap but excellent results

Steve