Ain't that the truth.
Drivers face fuel tax hike on diesels they were told to buy:
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Yep yet another labour blunder
My view on electric cars.
I could be wrong, I often am, but welcome other views.
Don't buy electric now.
They are very expensive, and the technology is moving very fast.
It's all about the recharge time, in a couple of years the recharge time will be a fraction of what it is right now.
So in 2 years your expensive elec motor will be old hat and worth very little.
Tim
I could be wrong, I often am, but welcome other views.
Don't buy electric now.
They are very expensive, and the technology is moving very fast.
It's all about the recharge time, in a couple of years the recharge time will be a fraction of what it is right now.
So in 2 years your expensive elec motor will be old hat and worth very little.
Tim
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Well mate of mine was thinking of going for electric, thank god I talked him out.
My logic, we are 1st/2nd generation of electric cars - turbo's been around for ages and still improving. Batteries last between 7-10yrs apparently and what happens then? probably a big bill
Its not proven technology, and expensive if it goes wrong
My logic, we are 1st/2nd generation of electric cars - turbo's been around for ages and still improving. Batteries last between 7-10yrs apparently and what happens then? probably a big bill
Its not proven technology, and expensive if it goes wrong
Wait till you see these then Tim.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/17/walmart-plans-to-pilot-test-the-new-tesla-semi/
Tony.
Makes me think so, and if they have a true range of up to 500 miles, that's pretty useful.
Tony.
Tony.
I agree with that but I think the market is company Car drivers for the BIK benefit.
I can’t see many people paying their own cash to buy one.
Although you get people who upgrade their cars every 3 yrs because it does 5mpg more than the old one (but they only 6k a year so spending thousands to save pennies!)
Electric fork lifts have been around for years and they go all day.
I see, but, the design of fork trucks allows for a much bigger weight and volume of batteries than a car ever could.
Batteries are getting lighter but have a way to go, and charging time is improving. Again speed and range you can't compare really. Speed is the main enemy of battery discharge.
Tony.
ps. Having been on US roads for quite a lot of miles these last few weeks, I think the almost silent Semi trucks creeping up behind you will, at first anyway, cause many accidents.
Batteries are getting lighter but have a way to go, and charging time is improving. Again speed and range you can't compare really. Speed is the main enemy of battery discharge.
Tony.
ps. Having been on US roads for quite a lot of miles these last few weeks, I think the almost silent Semi trucks creeping up behind you will, at first anyway, cause many accidents.
Formula E
The chassis was designed by Dallara, with an electric motor developed by McLaren (the same as that used in its P1 supercar), a battery system created by Williams Advanced Engineering and a Hewland five-speed gearbox. Michelin was the official tyre supplier.
An average Formula E car has a power of at least 250 horsepower (190 kW). The car is able to accelerate from 0–100 km/h (0–62 mph) in 3 seconds, with a maximum speed of 225 km/h (140 mph).
The chassis was designed by Dallara, with an electric motor developed by McLaren (the same as that used in its P1 supercar), a battery system created by Williams Advanced Engineering and a Hewland five-speed gearbox. Michelin was the official tyre supplier.
An average Formula E car has a power of at least 250 horsepower (190 kW). The car is able to accelerate from 0–100 km/h (0–62 mph) in 3 seconds, with a maximum speed of 225 km/h (140 mph).
And they still can't do a full race distance and have to change cars in the race.
Tony.
Tony.
Charge times will be limited to the form of supply. Your recharge time on a domestic supply will be limited to your 100A service fuse. On top of that there are cable losses etc. If you're looking at 75-100kW batteries to get decent distances you're still talking several hours. As full condition approaches charge rates have to reduce. On top of that you still have your oven, kettle, shower etc on the same supply.
Faster recharge times will only be at stations that can support much higher current draw. You're talking 3 phase supply or HT not a domestic supply.
Don't believe that fast charge times will be available everywhere. You won't get near instantaneous fill-ups that petrol/diesel fuel allows. The physics won't allow it.
Running electric will need a different strategy. But it's way cheaper until governments step in to replace their lost tax take.
Charging the car is forbidden during both qualifying and the race, as well as throughout parc ferme and scrutineering.
Teams can charge the cars in-between sessions and during practice.
I thought I had read somewhere that they were aiming to use a single car (charge) for the races next season mate, but I could be wrong. They will definitely get there at some point no doubt.
Tony.
Tony.
As you know I am in to anything to do with racing but, I do miss the noise with this....
Me too mate, all you get is tyre squeal and whirring. Not the same is it? From what I've watched there isn't much overtaking either.
Tony.
Tony.