Britain leaves the EU

Crap beer.=)) Get it all from Hooland.

Spot on with that mate, Heineken is crap (@t-tony drinks it :D)....you should try this....

Hertog Jan, will be in the part of the country where this is brewed tomorrow...:)

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a friend of mine has just got back from France, he didnt vote as he was out there for the last two weeks, he says they are all talking about it and its making headline news, the general consensus over there is wow they stood up for themselves, he even got cheered in a bar (though i will point out that this is in France, they can be quite rebellious and maybe they were cheering to see the back of us)
with such a close vote this is going to just rumble on and on.
 
Yes HT, but not for long. Just got back from my hols in Poole where my grandson had a convulsion, two para medics and a ambulance crew were there in six minutes, would have been the same for an old codger like me, so don't slang off the people who do their best, wouldn't say you live in the worst country in the world and didn't say we've nothing to worry about, but I'm glad I live here just like your glad where you live, it's horses for courses but I still believe theirs some joulousey not far from our shores.

Good job he was not taken ill in Wales. Just booked a doctors appointment ---3 weeks waiting time
Not the folk working in NHS(the can only work with tools they are given) but the assemble in Cardiff.
More important to hire a private jet for minister to go to the football.
 
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i have the solution, its simple.
we form our own union (maybe call it the united kingdom or something like that) we then charge other EU country's to join, they can adopt the pound and we will make up there laws. We will dictate trade deals for them and tell them how many migrants they must take in. Then our farmers can go over there and harvest their crops in the same way their fisherman harvested our fish. they must drive on the correct side of the road.
in return they must not rock the boat or be outspoken and must toe the line at all times.

there, solved, phew thank god for that, its all ok again.
 
@smiffy - interestingly a completely different outlook from everyone I encountered at work today. From the 20+ year old software devs through to the 50+ director it wasn't all smiles, just concern and a bit of anger. We are a software service provider to many high street banks.

From the voting maps posted yesterday on the BBC site you come from a strong "leave" area, and we are all from a strong "remain" area (Oxfordshire & West Berkshire).

It just shows how much the views differ are across the country. Life does go on today, but we haven't left yet - and won't be able to leave for another couple of years. Thats going to be when the decision get real.

I would have thought your firm would be reasonably secure as it has such a specialised skill. Its commercial threat being more from Asia than any status within Europe.
Whether local issues should dictate how the masses voted, well possibly it shouldn't but local issues are often caused by the national situation, I'm sure @Shelly will confirm that areas of Gt Yarmouth are becoming rather "unsavory" due to migrant populations. Whilst GY has its faults, it doesn't deserve areas locals are starting to avoid because of migration.
My family goes back as far as I've managed to trace around Lowestoft and its fishing industry, long before the word "software" existed. Eating fish will go on long after software is replaced, but our local industry has been destroyed whilst, dutch, belgian and french boats continue to fish our waters.

I could go on for hours but I won't and the other thing I won't do is fall out with anyone over it either, the the country voted and the proportional result was for us to leave. Those that want to be British need to now work together and salvage what we have got left.

For the record, I voted to leave, not because I wanted to but because I felt we have to.
 
i have the solution, its simple.
we form our own union (maybe call it the united kingdom or something like that) we then charge other EU country's to join, they can adopt the pound and we will make up there laws. We will dictate trade deals for them and tell them how many migrants they must take in. Then our farmers can go over there and harvest their crops in the same way their fisherman harvested our fish. they must drive on the correct side of the road.
in return they must not rock the boat or be outspoken and must toe the line at all times.

there, solved, phew thank god for that, its all ok again.

Just love your take on this littlefeller, why not put yourself up for MP, you got my vote right now.;) Only trouble is we already got a union and some of the kilted among us just don't see it that way, they love their EU partners.:facepalm: Shame as they been with us a lot longer than their so called EU partners. Perhaps just perhaps if London would have been in Scotland they might have seen it differently. Past governments fault for not looking after them properly, same goes for the north of England. Shame on us down here for letting the wealthy get away with it for so long. Hope they stick with us and that we can maybe put things right. Big ask I know.:tumbleweed:
 
i dont really see as they got much choice, whos gona look after them while they re-apply for eu membership, it wont happen over night.
 
Just love your take on this littlefeller, why not put yourself up for MP, you got my vote right now.;) Only trouble is we already got a union and some of the kilted among us just don't see it that way, they love their EU partners.:facepalm: Shame as they been with us a lot longer than their so called EU partners. Perhaps just perhaps if London would have been in Scotland they might have seen it differently. Past governments fault for not looking after them properly, same goes for the north of England. Shame on us down here for letting the wealthy get away with it for so long. Hope they stick with us and that we can maybe put things right. Big ask I know.:tumbleweed:

unfortunately i cant put myself up for PM, some slime somewhere would dig up certain episodes from my past, the i didn't inhale part wouldn't work in my case, in anycase i dont know if anyone else has noticed - how much leaders age in such a short time, its quite shocking.
if i was PM do you think i could be given a 507 as a state car ummm i might reconsider( i cant do any worse that that tw...t Farage), i had hoped if we voted out he would be redundant.
 
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Being an immigrant myself i am not sure if i ever allowed to tell my opinion on this issue. But, i am brave enough to tell. Being pro-eu (what a surprise) i reserve this decision to Britons. If Britons feel this is right - that what going to be implemented.

The only thing i am concerned about is a fact that nation divided by 52/48. I come from a country with divided nation (on different issue, but still) an i must say this is no fun.

Personally i expecting some implication to my business, and to amounts i'll pay to hmrc as well. But, any decision come with price, right?
 
@ppavuk , your opinion is as valid as anyone eases, maybe more so in fact. the 52/48 is not an accurate measure though as Scotland voted around 65% to stay, so if you remove there votes its closer to 60/40 for England. you could argue this more and say ok - what if we remove wales vote too, then where does the percentages stand?. personally i dont think it had anything to do with immigration, the way this has gone is a typically British reaction. the rest of the world find us hard to understand, we will go through a tough time but we will end up on top as we always do, this isn't because there is anything different with people from this part of the world, its simply that they will except what is and make it work.
 
@ppavuk , your opinion is as valid as anyone eases, maybe more so in fact. the 52/48 is not an accurate measure though as Scotland voted around 65% to stay, so if you remove there votes its closer to 60/40 for England. you could argue this more and say ok - what if we remove wales vote too, then where does the percentages stand?. personally i dont think it had anything to do with immigration, the way this has gone is a typically British reaction. the rest of the world find us hard to understand, we will go through a tough time but we will end up on top as we always do, this isn't because there is anything different with people from this part of the world, its simply that they will except what is and make it work.
This country used to be my home for nearly 5 years, my kids have English as their first language. I am very inclined for prosperity of UK. Though, since the referendum I've changed my mind on obtaining British citizenship. Clearly nation want us, Latvians, Poles, you name it, out. So for now I'll do what I must and let's God decide what will be next.
 
This country used to be my home for nearly 5 years, my kids have English as their first language. I am very inclined for prosperity of UK. Though, since the referendum I've changed my mind on obtaining British citizenship. Clearly nation want us, Latvians, Poles, you name it, out. So for now I'll do what I must and let's God decide what will be next.

Not true.

And I'm sure I speak for not only myself.

Speaking to many people about the vote the general feeling was more about us suffering extreme austerity the last few years and being ruled by wealthy politicians. I think many have voted out just to oppose our leaders who were telling us to remain.

That's not my view, but the impression I got from many people I spoke to.
 
I think many have voted out just to oppose our leaders who were telling us to remain.
I heard one lady on the radio today who said that she honestly didn't think the vote would go that way, and was making a protest vote against Cameron. She says she feels pretty sick about it now.
 
I heard one lady on the radio today who said that she honestly didn't think the vote would go that way, and was making a protest vote against Cameron. She says she feels pretty sick about it now.

This is going to be a wake up call for all politicians.

They need to realise they are public servants employed to run the country in the publics best interest.

The cutbacks we have endured the last few years has caused massive resentment with no light at the end of the tunnel, the normal people have voted in protest.

Most people who voted out didn't really know why, and the possible implications, but they felt something needed to change.

Not everyone I spoke to even mentioned immigration. Some did of course.
 
I don't normally talk politics but PPAVUK's post really touched me.

I hope he doesn't think all English people think this way.
 
Shake up for sure. Just look and see how many of Corbyns shadow cabinet have resigned in the last 24hours. New leaders all round, and it all drags it out longer. Which is what I'm starting to think is actually all part the plan...
 
Not true.

And I'm sure I speak for not only myself.

Speaking to many people about the vote the general feeling was more about us suffering extreme austerity the last few years and being ruled by wealthy politicians. I think many have voted out just to oppose our leaders who were telling us to remain.

That's not my view, but the impression I got from many people I spoke to.

As I said, this decision up to Britons. Being a guest in this country I only can say thanks for good years here. If bad years to come - I'll live them with Britons. There is still 27 countries including my homeland. So, as I said, this is Britons decision and I do respect it. The bad thing is that many Britons share my opinion on this. That's bad for UK. We, immigrants come and go. But those who aren't immigrants' - what about them?

divided country, you don't know what is it, but I do! No fun!
 
I don't normally talk politics but PPAVUK's post really touched me.

I hope he doesn't think all English people think this way.
As I said, it is up to Britons, my voice didn't counted here, and this is fair.
Again being external to issue i still can share my own experience. 48/52 is not good, no matter what is on the table
 
The worst thing that could have happened was a close call vote. I have said this all along. IF it had been pointed out before the referendum that the % of the % turnout may make it necessary to have a new ballot, well maybe, just maybe this wouldn't have been a total waste of time and much money.:(:(. @ppavuk you don't have any reason to worry as I see it.:)

Tony.
 
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