BREXIT Blues

thanks bud but I don't think your going to be able to do anything with this,as this is a custom built turbine built specifically for the water flow in our stream .its not an of the shelf unit ,in fact there's a 7 month build time.But thanks for the thought :)

Understand, still will ask, never know. By the time you pay for your unit ROE could easily be back where the quote was.

Also, pay your supplier in euro's, i can give you the rate of exchange of the day of the quote you received.
It's not our fault we never jointed the euro. England was the only country that qualified to be in the euro
yet the only one to stay out.
 
Those that disagree/dislike my posts, i will not respond, so you are wasting your time. Just add me
to your ignore list. I thank you.
 
Funny thing is, when we went into the Common Market it was the other way around, at the end of the day hindsight's 20x20. We still have Brits wanting to go over to Florida, took 3 bookings (deposits) today, and that's despite Zika. I appreciate there is going to be some hurt, it's bound to happen, but, I do honestly think things will improve after the money grabbers have been satiated.

Tony.
 
England was the only country that qualified to be in the euro
yet the only one to stay out.
And THAT was the best thing ever.

Tony.
 
Try not to knock the money grabbers, it's not their fault the opportunity is there, it's their ferking job.

It can go up and it can go down.

The great British pound will go up, if you have euro's in the back pocket, sell them buy sterling.
 
Funny thing is, when we went into the Common Market it was the other way around, at the end of the day hindsight's 20x20. We still have Brits wanting to go over to Florida, took 3 bookings (deposits) today, and that's despite Zika. I appreciate there is going to be some hurt, it's bound to happen, but, I do honestly think things will improve after the money grabbers have been satiated.

Tony.
I hope your right buddy,but what evidence do you have except a hope that things will get better.people who voted in voted because they were OK with the eu........folks that voted out ,voted because they didn't likeMuslims or Cameron or poles or eu rules or there mates did,or they believed 50 million turkeys would be invading our shores or some really did believe that we would have money to help the NHS,you have to at least admit this is true and the it's was all BS .we were lied to,and many believed the lies......We were a strong economy with a bright future.now it's a guess and hope....
 
people who voted in voted because they were OK with the eu........

And people who voted out, voted because they were not. For all the reasons, right or wrong, it was a democratic vote, because it didn't go the way that you wanted is just a fact of life mate. You can say we were lied to, but again is that just because you don't agree with the way it turned out? Maybe I'm hoping against hope that it was the right decision, but my gut feeling is it was the right thing. Time will tell. Oh, and I wish you well with all you're doing for your family Hugh, as I am for mine..:)

Tony.
 
If you don't think you were lied to that's fair enough. When I see a positive for my situation or at least someone ordinary benefiting from the vote at least I hope I'll be generous enough to admit it.Surely the weakness of the £ will in the short term help our exports?So far it's cost the ordinary family who holiday abroad money and any small bussnes that import goods.Perhaps as @N4LLY says the £ will improve and stuff will get cheaper in the mean time it's crap.
 
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The Euro would of probably dropped as it always does at this time of year. (Due to people buying Euros for holidays) Only five years ago it was at 1.16 and in 2010 it was 1.12. I actually said to people i know if we get away with it not dropping below 1.10 then we have done well as it means we as a Country are in a better financial position to the 2008 slump. Where it went from a high of 1.33 to 1.09 and the biggest drop was from 1.20 in November and 1.09 in December. We have been here before with the Euro rate and i am sure we will be here again. So with todays rate at 1.19 to me is a very good starting point. Yes every one has there view on what is happening and fair play to them. My views are only my views on past and present History and how the EU needed to change but they were just not willing to and that is why i voted out. How can you run a Democracy when the people in charge are not willing to change the way things are, even though they are told.
On a happier note i have been to Europe in June/July and i am going again in September and it will not cost me any more than it would of before Brexit due to having the foresight to seeing the Euro dropping and Buying enough Euros to cover both Holidays (Rate of 1.36). Next year will be a different matter but the Euro could of been lower then anyway
 
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My views are only my views on past and present History and how the EU needed to change but they were just not willing to and that is why i voted out. How can you run a Democracy when the people in charge are not willing to change the way things are.

The people I spoke to about voting out said exactly this.

Now I have a question, when we joined the euro/common market it was just for trade. How did it change so that it began setting laws for us and telling us what we can, and can't, do?

That's where it all went wrong.
 
To me it all went wrong when the Eastern block started coming into the EU. I have nothing against them. (i have quite a few of them as friends) But the EU did nothing regarding the free movement (which to be fair i know more about now than i did). How is it right that someone who is poorly paid in their own Country be entitled to benefits that are worth more than their Home Nations Wages and that is not just our country who is having to do this. If Cameron had got the right to not pay benefits for 4 years i would of more than likely voted to Remain. I have a son and daughter and one of them is in Council Property due to their circumstances. My Daughter has worked for her entire 10yr working life and her boyfriend is self employed and works six days a week they are in a 2 bed house and have 2 kids but they can not get a 3 bed as there in too high a demand. If you go around the estates and stop anyone they are more than likely foreign, (this i know) They can not afford to move into a privately rented one as these are way over priced due to the fact of Foreigners renting them and renting rooms out to the same Nationality (this too i know).
So us pulling out of the EU has nothing to do with economics it i believe is just solely down to the free movement, i am not against this but at least let the Country who takes in the free movement people set their own laws to safe guard their own Nationals. JMO
 
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To me it all went wrong when the Eastern block started coming into the EU. I have nothing against them. (i have quite a few of them as friends) But the EU did nothing regarding the free movement (which to be fair i know more about now than i did). How is it right that someone who is poorly paid in their own Country be entitled to benefits that are worth more than their Home Nations Wages and that is not just our country who is having to do this. If Cameron had got the right to not pay benefits for 4 years i would of more than likely voted to Remain. I have a son and daughter and one of them is in Council Property due to their circumstances. My Daughter has worked for her entire 10yr working life and her boyfriend is self employed and works six days a week they are in a 2 bed house and have 2 kids but they can not get a 3 bed as there in too high a demand. If you go around the estates and stop anyone they are more than likely foreign, (this i know) They can not afford to move into a privately rented one as these are way over priced due to the fact of Foreigners renting them and renting rooms out to the same Nationality (this too i know).
So us pulling out of the EU has nothing to do with economics it i believe is just solely down to the free movement, i am not against this but at least let the Country who takes in the free movement people set their own laws to safe guard their own Nationals. JMO


you have to sow in order to reap, if someone comes along and reaps what you have sown you are gona be mighty annoyed, this is what happened.
 
I don't expect anyone to change their mind and admit they could be wrong,

I was reading this with an open mind until you dropped this statement, who are you to say I'm wrong and your right. Neither option is right or wrong.

I'm still proud to say I voted to leave.
 
Choose what happens not everyone will be totally happy. That is just life. We all have to get used to it, it's here for keeps. Look forwards and give it a fair chance. My last words on this topic. Move on.

Tony.
 
@Lee

I agree with you, its a democracy and as such I did what I thought and still do think was right. I voted OUT... because I do not like the thought that the EU can control my own country. We did not get asked for such, and discussing with a lot of friends in Europe they too want the same. In a common market but not ruled by a common government from the EU glass offices...
 
I was reading this with an open mind until you dropped this statement, who are you to say I'm wrong and your right. Neither option is right or wrong.

I'm still proud to say I voted to leave.
two things,the word "could" in my statement and an "open mind " your reading from a certain position and your not going to change it because it costs us a few quid.Your willing to spend it to support your views,I just wish I didn't have to pay for them.But you know the worse thing yesterday after doing whatever with the bank and accountant was the remark at the till,it was the straw that broke my heart the most.And I was probably dissapointed in myself for not reacting to it as it shouldn't be acceptable in our country.
 
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two things,the word "could" in my statement and an "open mind " your reading from a certain position and your not going to change it because it costs us a few quid.

I am in no "position" My judgment is purely on what I see. We both don't know yet weather this "Brexit" is a good outcome or a bad.

But you know the worse thing yesterday after doing whatever with the bank and accountant was the remark at the till,it was the straw that broke my heart the most.And I was probably dissapointed in myself for not reacting to it as it shouldn't be acceptable in our country.

I don't know exactly what was said but I would have a guess and say after this whole Brexit thing you are more aware of what people say and do.
 
Strange our children and their peers think we have stunted their future chances in education and career prospects.but hey they've only had a university education and a look at the wider world through the Internet and travel than the parochial view of the majority of the older Generation that voted out

are these the youngsters that are running around staring at their phones chasing imaginary Pokemon and crying because they might not be able to travel across Europe for a fiver?

On a more serious note, my business has seen a significant uplift in exports since Brexit, the weakening pound has made us more competitive. I'm not sure how long it will last, as most of what we sell is mass-produced overseas. I expect we will see price increases if the rate doesn't head back to 1.3 before long though.

Oh, but I'm off on holiday soon, so I'll loose some of it in exchange rates however, we did book and pay for all inclusive so it will have less of an effect on us.

The Brexit decision has been made and we have to live with it, I must say I am rather disappointed with the politicians and the chaos they have caused since. Their actions are partly to blame for the pounds fall, it isn't just Brexit. the UK needed a strong and authoritive governement in place the moment the outcome was announced. We didn't have that and that has caused damage.

@miller1098 On the subject of the turbine, if you have not paid a deposit or down payment, i would go back to the Germans and ask to renegotiate the rate, and then tell them you want it pegged in Sterling.
However, in reality, a £1,000 variation on a £30,000 project is only a 3.3% shift. That is no doubt well within your contingency budget and it could have just as easily have been caused by some other global event, possibly caused by terrorism. What would have happened to the GBP if a member of our Royal family had been assinated for example.
With the benefit of hindsight, maybe it would have been worth buying the £30k of euro's before Brexit, that way your cost would have been fixed. If the project then didn't happen you could have sold the euro's and made a few quid.

Personally, I would have been looking closer at UK manufacturers on a bespoke project such as this though, not so much from a financial aspect but from a communication, support and if necessary, recourse angle. If it doesn't work properly, pursuing them through EuroCourts will be a lot of hassle, even compared to the UK system.

Good luck with the project though, renewables is a subject I've long been interested in, I used it as a study subject when I was studying electronic engineering in the late 80's, long before feed-in tarrifs made it fashionable. I had a then girlfiend type it up on a manual typewriteras I had no access to a PC in those days!
I also sell small scale off grid systems now, although wind and solar based. I hope you run a thread on the installation as I for one will love to see it progress.
 
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