Barn find Z3m advertised

[mrscalex]

You could easily spend 10K again getting this car back up to scratch, everything will need replacing and all the parts have M tax. I would make an offer of 6-7k justifying why.

If you wanted it pristine, yes £10k maybe - if it needs a lot of replacement including an engine rebuild.

But the reality is if you want a pristine car you probably wouldn't start with a 134k miler. Therefore you'd probably never commit £10k to it. You'd buy it as a cheap way into a Z3M and get it as nice as possible within reason. If it really needed an engine rebuild any time soon that would be the one thing having me head for the hills. Otherwise I'd probably keep the right side of 150k and hopefully out of trouble putting 3k a year on it over 5 years before hopefully being able to afford a better one.

 

[Jack Ratt]

Can't see it needing an engine rebuild unless it's been really mistreated and an enthusiast would know when they test drive it. It would most likely need a vanos rebuild but that isn't a major expense in the great scheme of things.

 

[Lee]

If you wanted it pristine, yes £10k maybe - if it needs a lot of replacement including an engine rebuild.

But the reality is if you want a pristine car you probably wouldn't start with a 134k miler. Therefore you'd probably never commit £10k to it. You'd buy it as a cheap way into a Z3M and get it as nice as possible within reason. If it really needed an engine rebuild any time soon that would be the one thing having me head for the hills. Otherwise I'd probably keep the right side of 150k and hopefully out of trouble putting 3k a year on it over 5 years before hopefully being able to afford a better one.

I'm not even talking about touching the engine. Bushes, suspension, brakes, hoses, shims, seals and paint this is easily 10k you don't get much change from 1k for a pair of wishbones & lollypops. trust me I've been there.

 

[mrscalex]

I'm not even talking about touching the engine. Bushes, suspension, brakes, hoses, shims, seals and paint this is easily 10k it's just shy of 1k for a pair of wishbones. trust me I've been there.

In that case I take back what I said and will happily accept your view.

But I'm staggered. Can you give a high level break out of that? £1k for a pair of wishbones - oh dear

 

[Lee]

It's mad mate. This was one of the main decisions that steered me away from buying another M, it was costing me a fortune

@Nodzed will tell you how bad it is, we just total built his M.

 

[mrscalex]

It's mad mate. This was one of the main decisions that steered me away from buying another M, it was costing me a fortune

@Nodzed will tell you how bad it is, we just total built his M.

I'll have a chat with Nodzed some time. We've chatted before a couple of times but never really got into the money side.

 

[Nodzed]

It's mad mate. This was one of the main decisions that steered me away from buying another M, it was costing me a fortune

@Nodzed will tell you how bad it is, we just total built his M.

Done this twice now, the price of parts for Ms are scary they share precious little running gear wise with other models, and there is always more to do once you get into them, plus you wont stop because you will want it as good as you can get it (trust me I know) This car is over priced I think circa 8k considering the description and its a bit of a gamble it will cost you 3 to 4k just to get it back into the correct driving condition suspension, brake system, bushes and everything else that perishes that's before the everyday Zed issues, there's the bumper, probably sills, maybe wheels refurbish, if it hasn't been upgraded the Vanos, how good is the soft top? the air con will cost 600 plus if the condenser is holed.

It could be a good buy at a lower price if you want a keeper, fancy a challenge and prepared to take a risk (you wont make any money on it though if you do it right)

 

[mrscalex]

Just proves I know my way around the non-Ms okay but not the M. But my £12.5k all done up price still stands I think. It's just you need to work back a lot further from that point than I realised.

Makes a £16-£17k car look good value if it's modest mileage and fully sorted!

 

[Tfp]

I never realised the parts for the M's were so much more expensive.

Not sure I'll ever own one.

 

[mrscalex]

I never realised the parts for the M's were so much more expensive.

Not sure I'll ever own one.

Seems like you take the standard part price and multiply it by 10!

 

[Nodzed]

Makes a £16-£17k car look good value if it's modest mileage and fully sorted!

Depends on your idea of modest mileage Rob.

 

[Nodzed]

Seems like you take the standard part price and multiply it by 10!

Maybe, but the parts are different to and serve a different purpose to standard non Ms dont forget the M is pushing out 300+ BHP so the parts BMW fitted had to be up to the job.

 

[Lee]

Seems like you take the standard part price and multiply it by 10!

Remember the parts are actually different, for example the wishbones are longer adding to the extra camber the m's carry. Very few things are the same but they are similar.

 

[Tfp]

Remember the parts are actually different, for example the wishbones are longer adding to the extra camber the m's carry. Very few things are the same but they are similar.

Is it the same for the Z4M coupe?

Are they carrying majorly different parts as well?

I only ask as I keep finding myself looking at them.

 

[pgunter]

If that price of the M puts you off, buy a 3.0 or a good 2.8. Fun all the way.

 

[mrscalex]

Depends on your idea of modest mileage Rob.

Right side of 100k

 

[Lazzzydog]

This is all good news for my wife. Her "M" is on 57500 miles and in great condition. However for everyday use my 2.8 is a much better bet giving plenty of smiles for not much money.

 

[Nodzed]

Right side of 100k

OK good luck on that on mate, I am doubtful you would find one that had everything done for that money sub 100k. The Imola is under that and time I've finished 17k wouldn't buy it just on expenditure alone.

 

[Nodzed]

If that price of the M puts you off, buy a 3.0 or a good 2.8. Fun all the way.

You're not wrong there Paul.

 

[Ianmc]

I have done over 200K in my MC since 2005 and have had most consumables replaced with OEM parts at some time or other. To be honest, I have never found parts to be especially expensive, with the odd exception such as the petrol pump which is unique to the S54 car. That said, can't say I have really compared prices to the Z3, but for a car with supercar performance (0 - 60 acceleration under 5 seconds) there are far more expensive to purchase and maintain cars out there. Actually, put like that the M is a bargain performance car.