Are they too bright?

t-tony

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Ah, will have to fit new wicks to the 1911 Maxwell down the farm!!
 

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I agree Tony, modern headlights do seem ridiculously bright, whilst the indicators don't seem to be bright enough......bizarre.
 

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I agree Tony, modern headlights do seem ridiculously bright, whilst the indicators don't seem to be bright enough......bizarre.
I think it's just that the brightness of the headlight again overpowers the indicator light Steve. Same thing can happen with DRLs if they're mounted next to the indicator lamp and that's why some cars now have the DRL go out when the indicator is flashing.

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Even on cars that temporarily turn off the headlight or drl, they still don't seem great..... or maybe I need another visit to Specsavers :whistle:.
 

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Even on cars that temporarily turn off the headlight or drl, they still don't seem great..... or maybe I need another visit to Specsavers :whistle:.
Sure it was Specsavers you went to? ;)
 

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The pattern on new lights tends to be very well defined when fitted with the correct bulbs.
A number of things cause this problem.

  • Poorly adjusted lights - why we have MoTs
  • Changing the bulb type so the distribution doesn’t match the reflector and the projector lens - again why they are an MoT failure.
  • Dirt on the headlight causing light to be diffused - why these lights must have washers, but most don’t care if there’s dirt on their headlights.
  • Being caught in the light pattern when your underneath that of the oncoming car due to the brow of a hill - move to Lincolnshire, Norfolk or Cambridgeshire.
The last one is probably the most frequent and dangerous.
Living in those places that is :whistle:
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I find some modern Led lights obseenly bright! New Mini...if the Drl's aren't bright enough wait till the headlights come on!!! retina burning!! And all the SUV's! I've never used the dipping leaver on the rear view mirror so much.
 

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Interest comment on MoT is beam alignment check on it ---- or is permitted time to short.

I understood that you had to have the bulb similar to that the lenses were type approved for.

I find it surprising the improvement in the beam when the headlight washer have done their job.

The only time I have been dazzled was on an undulating road.
I have more trouble with cars having a shortage of lights,I get fed up with trying to see if it's a car or motorbike coming towards me.

My biggest complaint is shortage of rear lights,a couple of nights ago on M56 I saw a solitary light in the centre lane , it turned out to be the offside light of a Transit,it had no more lights when it had to brake----- it was towing a 20 ft flatbed trailer that likewise had no lights.
 

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I find some modern Led lights obseenly bright! New Mini...if the Drl's aren't bright enough wait till the headlights come on!!! retina burning!! And all the SUV's! I've never used the dipping leaver on the rear view mirror so much.
Just wonder why they are manual dipping , I recall my e39,s of that era had auto dipping mirrors , inside and out.
 

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Most if not all of the excessively bright headlights are HID lights and as such have height sensors attached to the suspension (front and rear) which should keep the beam level correct, however "normal" lights have an internally adjustable levelling device whereby you can lower your headlights from the drivers seat. As a consequence of these brighter lights I will adjust them to the lowest permitted level on a test if they require adjustment. Most cars, at their first M.O.T. will have the lights set below the permitted level and will have had sine they were made, which is testament to a "good" PDI, only checked to see if they actually work and not about where they're aimed.
Another thing is poorly fitted bulbs (usually at Halfords - if they illuminate, they're OK) give an incorrect pattern and can dazzle drivers.
Nothing compared to these excessively bright lights, which whether correctly adjusted OR not, do blind you for a time simply because they are so bright.
Headlight cleaning devices are automatically operated when the lights are on when you operate the windscreen washers, so you don't have a choice of having dirt on your lights at all provided the level of washer fluid is above the take off point of the headlight system

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And I thought it was just me getting older:rolleyes: There do seem to be a lot of misaligned headlamps around. Met a car coming down one of our narrow country lanes that only had one headlamp, and that was the nearside one. No sidelamp, either. Made my heart beat a bit faster for a little while:wideyed:
 

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Just wonder why they are manual dipping , I recall my e39,s of that era had auto dipping mirrors , inside and out.
Unfortunately none of that stuff on any of my cars!
 

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I get more annoyed by the excessively bright LED lights on emergency service vehicles. You really don't need to see them from 5 miles away.
 

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I get more annoyed by the excessively bright LED lights on emergency service vehicles. You really don't need to see them from 5 miles away.
Its the number of lights that they have strobing. It feels very uncomfortable and distracting. They also contain a very high level of UV that makes then standout.
 

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I get the impression they have them so bright that you have to slow right down as you go past them on the roadside.

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I get the impression they have them so bright that you have to slow right down as you go past them on the roadside.

Tony.
That may be so Tony. The problem is the strobing is right in the frequency and number of lights is such that can induce epileptic fits.
 
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