Are the Z3 2.8 & 3.0 on the rise?

Jack Abraham

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Hi guys & girls,

Is it just me or are the 2.8 & 3.0 straight 6 engine roadsters appreciating?

I purchased my Z3 for 3K 6 months ago and the same car/spec is 5.5-6k now.


Thanks,

Jack
 

andyglym

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More so the 3.0 and the face-lift 2.8 as they were made in much less numbers and for a shorter period of time. That said, every time one sells for over the odds others will surely follow suit. Still miles behind the big boys though.
 

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Very low mileage ones maybe, but on the whole I think they've plateaued for a while now.

The 3.2 variety (roadster or particularly coupes) have risen steadily for a few years now.

A mint one (2.2-3.0), water tight, well serviced, with rubbers refreshed and low mileage will be worth at least what you pay for it in the future I'd say (if the seller doesn't have your pants down when you buy it).
 

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Hi guys & girls,

Is it just me or are the 2.8 & 3.0 straight 6 engine roadsters appreciating?

I purchased my Z3 for 3K 6 months ago and the same car/spec is 5.5-6k now.


Thanks,

Jack
My guess is that you were a bit fortunate finding the car you did for the price you did and also that these predicted prices are usually a bit optimistic too. Just because a car is priced at a figure doesn't always follow that it sells for that figure. It could also be said that you bought your car at what is normally the "selling" time of year Jack, either way it was your good fortune I think :thumbsup:

Tony.
 

Sean d

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The 3.0l is but 2.8s seem to be all over the place, the high priced ones have been on ebay for months, a decent one seems to go for 2.5-3k for a very good one.
 

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3.0 yes

2.8 not yet. They made so many and there are tons out there still.

But you shouldn't lose money on a 2.8 now
 

t-tony

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3.0 yes

2.8 not yet. They made so many and there are tons out there still.

But you shouldn't lose money on a 2.8 now
Depends how much you spend on it really though mate, at best the prices should not be dropping.

Tony.
 

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I bought a 3.0 in Feb 2017 and did much t'interweb research beforehand (although not for any other engine size). My impression was prices plateaued a few years ago and have slowly risen since. E.g. I only paid £500 less for my car than what the guy I bought it from paid for it in 2012. We were both very happy with the price, as I think I got a bit of a bargain and he got £100 p/y motoring, not counting consumables, etc.
 

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I did not worry about what it’s worth. I looked for a good one that I knew would need some work doing to it. Zedshed away day up to the Scottish Border got me a cracking 3.0 which then has had over £1k spent on her. She runs lovely and gave me 11k miles last year. That was personal miles too as the work car takes up the majority.

We buy these cars to enjoy the drive, if you want to get an investment you would buy a low mileage well pampered garage queen, get ripped of in doing so and then be scared to drive it. A car price is only as good as a person is prepared to pay for it on the day. The value is in what it brings you in life, not in the pocket.
 

Paul Rice

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Will be putting my 1.9 up for sale early spring and expecting to get back what i paid for it 5 years ago, Never had that before on a car,that doesn't include the £2k spent to get it to the standard it is now.
 

Aaron MacQ

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Oh, interesting topic. :thumbsup:

I'm no car dealer, but I do web development work for some traders, which in turn gives me access to some industry wide data.

From what I've seen, recommended trade-in values haven't changed that much, but the resale values have gone up by 10-25% for what the data suppliers term 'wide-body' versions. Annoyingly (for me and my '98 widebody 2.8) they include the facelift 4 pots in that group, where as I like to call the facelifts 'mid-bodys'.

Now, whilst this sounds great for existing Z owners, I think it's actually more of a result of legislation changes a few years ago that define that cars sold by traders have to be roadworthy, with a 12 month warranty etc..., and since these cars are getting on a bit, that overhead gets bigger each year.
The result of that on the private market is that prices end up all over the place.

Some people may have bought a car for some value, then want to sell it a few years later, hoping to break even.
Others may ask for a trade in value, and try to sell for a bit more privately, or need to sell fast to release money or fund their next toy quickly.
Then there's people who look at the market and pitch their car amongst the others out there regardless of whether it's being sold with dealer benefits or not.

Then, I also think it's fair to consider the Z3 as an enthusiast car, and as such there is a minority group of potential buyers that will pay premiums for certain must-have spec's, colour, trim, originality, OEM+ spec additions, history and of course mileage and overall condition are always a factor.

We can also see the average advert duration, and with any droptop, seasonal fluctuations do occur. Spring, Summer months prices up and faster sales, Autumn Winter, prices down and slower sales, especially with higher priced stuff which goes stagnant over the winter.

In summary, I can't figure out if actual prices (private sales or net trade profits) are going up or not, but they aren't going down!
 

Aaron MacQ

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It's mostly obvious, but since getting hooked on these Z's last year, I've watched the data with much interest.

Same with e46 M3's, with a similar story although with a few extra factors.
Very similar cars on paper could be priced anywhere from £6k to £18k, with examples from both ends of the spectrum potentially requiring thousands spent to fix common issues... crazy. I think what happened there is that the best examples with all the best preventative maintenance already taken care of (bearing shells, vanos, boot floor issues) started to command a premium, but then the trade market tried to catch up, and now it's a complete lottery what condition you would expect to find at the mid-to-upper end and the cheap ones continue to hold the market back as non-enthusiasts that don't know about the issues, don't understand why the price difference existed in the first place...
 

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I'm keeping a close eye on the prices for Z'ds.

As already said, I think they've peaked for now.

The two classic car dealers I do a bit for are saying things are going quiet.

I think a lot of people have jumped on the bandwagon of "invest the money in classic cars" because of low interest rates.

Many of them have learnt that leaving cars sitting around doesn't do them any good and can produce some large prep bills that counter a possible rise in value.

And rust....

I get sent to buy loads of cars, I speak to so many people who say "had it fully restored two years ago, rust is coming back, sick of throwing money at it"

I really don't get the Z3m coupe prices, just silly.

My money would go on a nice 3.0 or 2.2.
 

Sean d

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I'm keeping a close eye on the prices for Z'ds.

As already said, I think they've peaked for now.

The two classic car dealers I do a bit for are saying things are going quiet.

I think a lot of people have jumped on the bandwagon of "invest the money in classic cars" because of low interest rates.

Many of them have learnt that leaving cars sitting around doesn't do them any good and can produce some large prep bills that counter a possible rise in value.

And rust....

I get sent to buy loads of cars, I speak to so many people who say "had it fully restored two years ago, rust is coming back, sick of throwing money at it"

I really don't get the Z3m coupe prices, just silly.

My money would go on a nice 3.0 or 2.2.
Why the 2.2, surely the 2.8 is more desirable looking at current prices.
 

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The Ms have definitely peaked and slowly dropping now the dealers have cottoned on people wont pay stupid money for them.
 

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Why the 2.2, surely the 2.8 is more desirable looking at current prices.
Think because the 2.2 had some nice sports bits on it mate though looking at the various Z3 reviews the 2.8 is the one to have as best all rounder :D Standby :whistle:
 

Jimmy Weston

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I've spent lots off time and money on my Zed ,and il continue to do so, it's a bit alarming about the prices all over the place,and I know I'll never get my money back,but I've never heard a better statement than @pgunter (the value is what it brings you in life,not in your pocket)your so right,thankyou.
Jimmy.
 
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