Z3 2.2 (2001), 100k miles, same owner since 2005, £3495 - a good buy?

motco

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It's good to hear from someone who's not blinded by the popular support for the MX5. Yes it's a nice two seater but that's it IMHO. My son had a Honda S2000 for a while and I drove it a few times. It's remarkably fast with 200bhp from its 2 litre 4 cylinders, but it is unrefined. The best part from my point of view is the engine (I'd have loved one in my now departed Westfield) which screams into stratospheric revs and fed through the best gearchange/gearbox I have ever encountered, makes for a proper fun drive. But in south-east England the opportunities to exploit these unique features are few and far between and will risk your licence disappearing. The mid-range torque is mediocre.
The Honda is a rust bucket and has its quirks which take the gilt off it to a great extent, whilst any of the six-cylinder Z3 cars is a smooth magic carpet in comparison. Under-rated thanks to a certain walking ego on TV, the Z3 range has long been criticised by many who have never ever sat in one, let alone driven one. I took mine of a track day one December because my son was going with his Z4M Coupé and it was too damned cold for my Westfield. The Z3 (2.2i Sport unmodified since manufacture) handled really far better than I had any right to expect. Understeer easily became controllable oversteer with judicious power application, and the straight line speed was quite respectable too. My major criticism, which would apply to any car of its humble market aim of road use, was the brakes. They worked well enough in respect of stopping power (DSC off or they'll overheat simply trying to control the driver's sideways action fun) but not for long. After two or three laps the pedal was to the floor and I had to sit out the rest of the session. They recovered for the drive home, but I would hesitate to do a track day again without some serious upgrades. As a matter of fact the Z4MC brakes were found lacking too and have now been replaced with a 'big-brake kit' along with numerous other track oriented mods. It drives track days in New South Wales blistering heat nowadays, son loves it that much.
Good choice OP, and Good Luck with your new car.
 

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I’ve had a couple of roofs done by Ray at jack Smiths great service & good quality especially for the money, be warned he is a character lol
 

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Soft tops in Croydon were open earlier this year..what did they say ?
 

inhocsigno

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Hello everyone,

A few updates and a request for feedback and help, please! :) (This is a complicated smile.)

I have finally gotten around to replacing the bonnet release cables, and inevitably had a proper look at the car's undercarriage yesterday with my mechanic. To think of it, I might have been semi-consciously postponing this moment, just enjoying the smooth ride and the beauty of the car.

I expected corrosion, and there is indeed a lot of it throughout. The mechanic wasn't particularly concerned (apparently he sees a lot of rust on recent cars) until he had a closer look at the rear wishbone right-hand suspension unit: here it is. Unlikely to pass MOT. The man tapped on the other unit and while not as bad, he did express concerns.

Essentially I have 6 months to fix this. And I want to fix it. What do you think are my options, please, and is there a reasonable thing to do without spiralling into +£1.000 expenses? Can this be a welding job? A second-hand parts project? I'm not sure how expensive a new unit is (tried Google but struggled deciphering the results).

I'd also like to spend time and effort treating the rest of the corrosion, slow it down as much as possible - I unfortunately do not have access to a ramp, and don't know how many tools I need (jacks, etc?), but I am willing to learn, acquire these, and maybe travel, even a couple of days, and perhaps apprentice under someone who's done this before on theirs and would be willing to give me a few tips. If that won't be an option, any suggestions on how to best approach this would be appreciated!

Thank you!
 

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inhocsigno

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Hello everyone,

A few updates.

The car has a new roof. It is very good. I made it into a short camping trip to Wales. I cannot recommend Jack R Smith Trimmers of Swansea enough. He is a remarkably interesting man. :)

I also got to know the engine better - it's so elastic and easy to drive, seeming to want to cruise at around 75-80, while leaving the impression of some decent reserves beyond that. Having driven a turbo for a long time on long trips, the power delivery is remarkably smooth and linear, and while at first I thought 'kinda lazy if not properly revved', I have grown to recognize it as part of the elegance and maturity of the six cylinder engine. I am, however, considering retro-fitting cruise-control.

I have also acquired a respectable pair of second-hand trailing arms for him! I did so via FB Marketplace. Thank you everyone for your private recommendations, much appreciated. I got the arms from a young man who, together with his father, are restoring and enjoying these cars. Amongst the sights upon pick up was a very nice Z3M roadster.

The trailing arms need painting and some derusting; I brought some equipment and will be posting my progresss. :) My mechanic gave them the seal of approval, saying they're 90% better than the old ones.

As for undercarriage treatment, I am inclined at the moment to wirebrush everything then apply waxxoil. I'll consider a more permanent solution later.

Thank you and have a good day!
 

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Lovely colour combination with that smart new roof! Happy days!
 

inhocsigno

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Hello everyone,

A few updates on the car.

[EDIT: I forgot to mention - it was really quite an annoyance! Driving on the motorway in November the car alarm started; I drove back home and couldn't really make it stop for a long time; it eventually stopped; after some research, I found that the alarm control unit underneath the boot was indeed flooded; i pulled out all of the wires going inside that control unit and remarkably this action seems to have fixed the issue; I've only manually been locking the car since, as I don't want to risk it again; apparently I will have to eventually disable all sensors for a permanent fix.]

Aside from a calliper sticking (replaced), I'm looking to fit the new trailing arms ahead of the MOT later this month. I will be powder coating the replacement arms soon. I'm looking at acquiring a few bits and bobs for the job and was wondering what the best places to buy from are!

- rear wheel bearings
- rear disc backing plates
- trailing arm bushes
- handbrake shoes

Many thanks and have a Good New Year!
 
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Always worth looking at Autodoc and Carparts in Motion to compare Brands and prices. Meyle and Febi brands seem a popular choice for many. ebay also worth a look. All depends on your budget at the end of the day.
 

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AntStark

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Th first link are the trailing arm bushes..need 2 bushes per trailing arm. If the back end is out already then get the beam bushes (your second link) done as well as if still original they will be shot. You need 2 of those, one for each side. Diff bush I wouldn't trust many garages to do that properly.
 

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For the Diff. a Poly bushes is easier to do.

Tony.
 

inhocsigno

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Thanks for the replies

So the old trailing arms are still on the car - plan is to replace them with the other (newly painted) ones in as minimal a procedure as possible - I think I'll stop by my mechanic and ask him what and how many bushes are needed. I'm satisfied with how the car drives now so am not looking to replace other bits unless necessary.
 

Jam03

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Hello everyone,

I'm seriously considering buying a 2001 Z3 2.2 roadster, 100k miles, 2 previous owners, same owner since 2005; the trader is asking £3495 for it; I have a limited budget of around £4000, and honestly I did not expect the Z3 to be available for this - I was looking at convertible six cylinder E46s, but they tend to be very high mileage and feel like a risky gamble.

I'm somewhat particular about the specification, looking for a six cylinder manual with a light leather interior and as original a specification as possible. I found one that seems to fit the bill and am wondering whether to go for it, and what I should ask the dealer before moving forward. I've read about some M54s eating oil, is this something to look out for? Is that an expensive or even necessary fix (I don't expect to cover more than 6-8k miles per year). Anything else I should perhaps ask? The plate is GL51OTA if it helps. I had a look at the MOT history and there's no mention of corrosion.. photos look clean.

I remember seeing these as a teenager - to think I could own one now - they are very beautiful.

I'm not in a rush to buy, but this one looks quite nice, and at a good price? What do you think? :)

Thank you,

Constantin
Durham, UK
This car is still available😀
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