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The Myth of the "Real M Car"

Discussion in 'General Car Stuff or non-Zed Specific Stuff' started by GazHyde, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. GazHyde

    GazHyde The Gaz Monkey
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    This is an interesting article I've just read through. Source article here

    On two occasions in the past week I've had brow furrowing moments where someone made reference to a "real M car." The most recent being the comments on Chris Harris' comparison of the M6 GrandCoupe, E63, and Jaguar XFR-S where someone said "Finally maybe people will respect the M5/6 as real M cars." ...this raises a lot of questions, the most obvious being "what the hell does that even mean?"

    It talks about when the M actually meant Motorsport, and how over the years the pedigree has become less meaningful. How the M-Sport derivation has watered down the brand, and that perhaps there really were on 3 real "M" cars.

    It does however give some recognition of the Z3M Coupe as one of the last "real M cars" before the badge "sold it's soul for higher profits"

    What do you guys reckon the "real M" actually is?

    It talks about this...
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    ...and this...
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    ...and this as the only true M's
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  2. badman gee

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    Any m car without a turbo!
     
  3. Mr-P

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    To me a real M is the BMW 3.5 CSL 1976 (IMHO)
    csl3.5.jpg

    The problem being these days any BMW driver with the "M" badge on his/her car thinks they own/drive the real thing. (don't get me started)
     
  4. zedonist

    zedonist Guest

    I dont think you can exclude this:
    bmwz4gt3000opt-1267718898.jpg
     
  5. DivideBYZero

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    I'm pretty sure my E46 M3 was an M car, and my current M3, with it's custom engine and suspension components and mental DSG, is about as M as it gets. Well, the exhaust mod helps, too... :D Is it comfy and coddling? Yes. Do I want to drive a stripped out hardcore racer everyday? No. :)

    Now to really get this started, what about the M135i... what in the hell is that!
     
  6. GazHyde

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    There was a point in it's history where M changed from meaning Motorsport to Marketing (or possibly Merchandise). I used to be one of those people who mocked people for sticking M badges on their cars. It doesn't bother me anymore, as BMW did all the hard work in making the M badge mean much less than it did in the early days.
     
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    Actually, I get the M135i. I'm not convoked calling it an Mxxx is wise, but it does make sense. To me the 1M was a true M car. The original M1 is pretty disappointing with regard to pure performance compared to even some of the diesels BMW makes today. It's all relative.


    I DON'T get people putting M badges on their car. if you do that to a cooking variety car then you're only fooling yourself, as anyone who knows what the badge means knows your car isn't one. :p

    (Just got my new 5 speed illuminated shift knob for the Z3 today, but it's on the inside, and that's allowed!)
     

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