Stainless steel bolts?

David Carter

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Having spent the day using a breaker bar and cold chisel removing the securing bolts on various rear suspension components on the dear old Z3 (whose idea was it to have the bolts holding the rear cross member brackets in place removed using a 6mm Allen key? Some chance!), I thought when I reassemble it I might replace most of them with stainless bolts. Apparently these are grade 5 strength (whatever that means). As I'm no metallurgist, can anyone tell me if they'd be as strong as the originals, as I have no great wish to see my rear axle overtake me after the rebuild?
 

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IMO, stainless A2 should be ok to use. These are only securing bolts. They are not "strength bolts" - if they were, they would be meatier.

The best option is to replace them with originals as you are very unlikely to ever remove them again. I always apply a little copperslip.
 

MarkLG1973

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This may shed some light:

https://www.westfieldfasteners.co.uk/Ref_Strength_Spec.html

Where I’ve seen a rating listed for the originals (shock mountings and the like) it’s usually 8.8, similar to class 80 stainless, so avoid cheaper, lower quality stainless.
I’d err on the side of caution for anything load bearing and stick with originals, but for lighter duty stuff stainless should be fine.
 

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Fastener tensile strength is designated by the numbers marked on the bolt head and nut. Most people are familiar with grade 8.8 bolts. The first number designates it's tensile strength. In this case the 8 means the UTS (Ultimate Tensile Stress) is 80Newtons (or approx 80kgs) per square mm of the bolts cross sectional area. The second number 8 tells you that it's yield point, (the point at which the bolt starts to stretch) is at 80% of the UTS.
8.8 bolts are sufficient for most parts on a car except for very high cyclic temperature critical such as cylinder head bolts. On a Z3 these are 10.9 grade.

For fasteners where corrosion is more of a concern than tensile strength you could select galvanised or zinc plated ones. Plated or galvanised fasteners wont give 100% assurance though because these can become susceptible to chemical imbalance when they come in contact with salt which we get when our roads are gritted etc.

316 stainless has a UTS in the region of 50N/square mm.

A4-80 grade stainless fasteners will give you similar properties to 8.8 steel fasteners but they are usually available by special order subject to order quantities etc

Hope this little insight helps, but as a rule of thumb, go with what the manufacturer fits in terms of grades and types of steel etc. Bolts are available with different types of head such as hexagon, allen, torx etc and these can be chosen to suit yourself or for personal preference and wouldn't have a impact on their suitability from an "engineering" point of view
 

Steve Medlock

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M8 x 22 hex head bolts in 8.8 grade are not hard to find. You can even get them with a BMW part number if you want to be true to the marque......
 
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