Some help, please

lalinsorinoco

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I do not know how, but my passenger seat motor is either cooked or the whole movement is jammed. The seat has two motors, one to go up and down and the other to go front and back.
It is stuck in a position where I cannot reach the bolts on the rear end. I don't have the space (or the technical acumen) to work on such an endeavour to remove the car seat (or move the seat manually before removal) and fix it.
So, if someone can help me with this, I'd be very grateful. I'll pay £50.00 per hour for your troubles, plus a six pack of your choice!
I live in Farnborough, Hants.
Thank you
 

John_B

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If you haven't tried yet, give the motor a firm tap with a hammer. No, seriously. I didn't believe it when I was given this advice, but it worked when I had a motor that appeared not to work. (I may be wrong, but I think the theory is it can dislodge dust and such in the motor that may be preventing a good connection).

Worth a try before you get somebody in
 

IainP

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The flexi drives can be removed and the seats moved with an electric screwdriver, even just a ratchet works, though it takes ages.
Personally, I don’t recommend using the flexi drive in a drill/driver, I destroyed one of mine fairly easily. It’s 3mm square drive (I think), bits are available from most security bit sets, Screwfix/Toolstation etc, I just made one from an old screwdriver bit and used it in a flexi screwdriver extension. Wind each side an inch at a time. Put the seat up to its full height before you start. Gives plenty of access. Sounds much more complicated than it actually is. It’s easy, just tedious if you have to do it by hand.
The motors do tend to seize if there’s any moisture under the seats moved, so worth checking for that. The motor is also quite easy to take apart to clean, but more fiddly to put back together, the brushes are in the way of putting the end cap on, some tiny tools required.
If the motor is completely jammed I have a couple spare, I could refurb one and swap it. The brushes don’t really wear out, it’s dirt on the comm, or the brass bush has seized on the shaft.
 

lalinsorinoco

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Thank you @John_B and @IainP for your advice. I’ll have a go after I get back from my hols. Thank you once again.
 

IainP

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Welcome, I’ve had a few apart, if tapping them, or spraying contact cleaner/WD or similar doesn’t resurrect them they tend to look like this, top two pics.
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Takes longer to get the casing off than it does to clean everything. There appear to be two types of brushes, one can be locked in place for reassembly, the other pain in the arse type need to be pulled back individually to get the shaft into the little bush. One of my own motors was so corroded the bush was seized and chewed the plastic housing up. Amazingly it still turned, though slowly and with a great deal of noise. I managed to remove it, polish everything and epoxy it back in place and it works perfectly. So no need to go buying one really, it’ll be fixable.
 
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