Thanks Col.... yeah we knew pretty much it was to be expected... thanks though..... let me know how you get on with the sill cover removal... i may have a go at it,. i just dont want to break any plastic clips especially in my cold garage,,, have a few things i wan to do but at the moment its a bit too cold up the garage.... car is running loads better since fitting the cam sensor, its like a new car so much more power too..