Radiator Fan no low speed

handsomejackuk

Zorg Guru (III)
Australian Zeds
The M44 Massive
Joined
Aug 8, 2016
Points
145
Location
t
Hi,

trying to prove my radiator fan is working and by shorting out two terminal on the radiator fan switch i get high speed but cant get low speed fan working, any ideas, have swapped relays over high speed and low speed for other ones and still not working...

also is it correct that the radiator fan should come on low speed when air condition is active ?...
as mine does not .. beginning to suspect a blown low speed resistor on the radiator fan...

car is 1998 m44 engine electric fan with air con...
 

Brian H

Zorg Expert (I)
Supporter
British Zeds
Scottish Zeds
Joined
Dec 5, 2011
Points
205
Location
Killin
Model of Z
E36/7 3.0i - E85 Z4///M
There is a big electrical plug on the fan, split this and test at that point, you should have 3 wires in the plug, a ground and two switch wires, one for low speed and one for high speed. Once you know the fan will s working you can work from there.
 

t-tony

The Legend
Deceased
Supporter
#ZedShed
Joined
Dec 31, 2013
Points
226
Location
Torksey Lock,Lincoln, England
Model of Z
E89 Z4 23i Auto

handsomejackuk

Zorg Guru (III)
Australian Zeds
The M44 Massive
Joined
Aug 8, 2016
Points
145
Location
t
going to probe my relay sockets this morning to see if i can activate the low speed fan ... i always use a current limiting bulb when i test these sort of things, so going to make up a lead with some crimps and test terminals to make the job a bit easier... i dont really know if the airconditionning is working properly.. not too botheres about that just want to make suer the fan comes on correctly
 

Ianmc

Zorg Guru (IV)
British Zeds
The M44 Massive
Joined
Oct 12, 2014
Points
165
Location
New Forest
Model of Z
Z3 (M44)
I think there is a plug known as a "hedgehog" that often is the source of such problems.
 

Dino D

Zorg Guru (V)
British Zeds
Joined
Mar 28, 2014
Points
176
Location
Kent
Model of Z
2.8 Manual
I've had this issue on a 2.8 (the aircon fan or auxilary fan).
It never ever worked on low speed.
It only worked when the AC was on (at full speed, not low speed).
It was supposed to kick it at low speed when sat in traffic without a AC on.

Turns out a number of 2.8's were wired incorrectly by the factory...
Here is a thread where a couple of us dealt with this issue @deni2s is also one here:
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2207733-Z3-2-8-electric-fan-failure

It sounds like you have the same issue we had on the 2.8.

It's now fixed by correcting the pins and my car runs only the electric fan (no viscous) and it kicks in at low speed as needed and I've only ever heard high speed being used whe AC is on.
 

deni2s

Zorg Addict
Joined
Jun 12, 2013
Points
60
Location
Riga
The brown wire must be in the middle. If it's not, you need to rearrange ALL wires so that brown is in the middle.
 

t-tony

The Legend
Deceased
Supporter
#ZedShed
Joined
Dec 31, 2013
Points
226
Location
Torksey Lock,Lincoln, England
Model of Z
E89 Z4 23i Auto
going to probe my relay sockets this morning to see if i can activate the low speed fan ... i always use a current limiting bulb when i test these sort of things, so going to make up a lead with some crimps and test terminals to make the job a bit easier... i dont really know if the airconditionning is working properly.. not too botheres about that just want to make suer the fan comes on correctly
The point of a power probe is that you connect it to your battery and you can then supply power to motors to ensure that they actually do work.

Tony.
 

handsomejackuk

Zorg Guru (III)
Australian Zeds
The M44 Massive
Joined
Aug 8, 2016
Points
145
Location
t
low speed fan works ok as proven by shorting relay contacts on relay socket.. just need to find a 1.9 m44 schematic, as i have been working off the 6 cylinder which is slightly different.. and find out why the low speed realy doesnt come on relay tested and all ok.... suspect there may be a break in the cable between the rad temp sensor and the relay coil connection.... or maybe a fuse....
 

Nodzed

Zorg Expert (II)
Supporter
British Zeds
M Power
Joined
Feb 18, 2016
Points
231
Location
Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Model of Z
Z3M Imola and Z4 (e89)
i dont really know if the airconditionning is working properly.
Al, I don't mean to state the obvious but if it ain't ice cold it ain't working properly
 

handsomejackuk

Zorg Guru (III)
Australian Zeds
The M44 Massive
Joined
Aug 8, 2016
Points
145
Location
t
grrrr it aint working properly then hehe.....prob needs regassing...
 

Nodzed

Zorg Expert (II)
Supporter
British Zeds
M Power
Joined
Feb 18, 2016
Points
231
Location
Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Model of Z
Z3M Imola and Z4 (e89)
grrrr it aint working properly then hehe.....prob needs regassing...
Make sure its pressure tested before re gassing, the gas doesn't just evaporate regardless of what some AC cowboys will tell you, go to a reputable AC company. Also they should advise you to fit a new dryer, saturation is the biggest cause of failure after the system having a leak.
 

handsomejackuk

Zorg Guru (III)
Australian Zeds
The M44 Massive
Joined
Aug 8, 2016
Points
145
Location
t
i had a fella come to the house when i had my saab done, and got to say he was very good, pulled the gas out with vacuum pump, weighed the gas as it went in checked for leaks, and oiled the compressor, cost me £50 and was real good after.... so probably use him... when i am ready...
 
Top