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Pingu's M Roadster

Discussion in 'Progress Threads' started by Pingu, May 7, 2017.

  1. Pingu

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    I've just copied the HTML from "across the road", so the links still point there.

    Jobs done so far on my M roadster...

    -----------Winter 2010/2011-----------

    Inspection 2 Service - £100
    ---Crankshaft Turning Tool
    Fuel filter replaced - £50
    Vanos filter replaced - £7.50
    Valve clearances checked and adjusted - £10
    ---Tappet Adjustment Tool
    Engine covers and plenum chamber painted - £5
    Power steering fluid replaced (I bet not many ZM's have had this done) - £5
    Air leak under plenum chamber cured - £0
    Water pump replaced and antifreeze replaced - £100
    ---Viscous Fan Removal Tool
    Auxilliary belts replaced - £30
    Coolant system flushed and refilled - £30
    Exhaust rear sections replaced - £250
    Brake calipers painted - £5
    Seized front right brake caliper freed - £0
    Repair brake pad warning light wires - £0
    Rear brakes stripped and cleaned - £0
    Rear brake pipes replaced - £15
    Brake fluid replaced with DOT 5.1 - £15
    Diff carrier welded and strengthened - £10 (Thread)
    Diff mount replaced - £30
    ---Diff Mounting Tool
    Diff oil replaced - £30
    Gearbox oil replaced - £50
    Front anti-rollbar drop links replaced - £30
    Front & rear ARB bushes realigned - £0
    Bass box removed from boot - £0
    Hole between boot and passenger compartment plated - £5
    General de-rust and paint underbody parts - £5
    Lift carpets and de-rust and paint - £5
    Hazard warning switch replaced - £5
    Screenwash replaced - £5
    Repair rocking driver's seat (I managed to put airbag light on by leaving seatbelt pretensioner disconnected :oops: ) - £5
    ---Airbag (SRS) Reset Tool - £37
    ---Reset airbag light - £0
    Manufacture and fit battery clamp - £1
    Manufacture and fit wind deflector - £10
    Put in standard head unit - £0
    Removed amplifier and associated wiring - £0
    Reconnected original speakers (front only) - £0
    MOT test passed (no advisories :) ) - £45

    -----------Summer 2011-----------

    Fitted E46 gear knob - £15
    Fitted CD multichanger (needs cartridge) - £10
    Fitted boot carpets to suit boot multichanger - £30
    Resprayed LH door and LHR wing - £150
    Fit CD multichanger cartridge - £15
    Replace broken ashtray bulb - £7
    Replace Constant Pressure Valve - £25 (Thread)
    Derestrict exhaust system - £15 (Thread)

    -----------Winter 2011/2012-----------

    Inspection 1 Service - £45
    ---Modify valve shim tool to allow access to cyl 6 - £0
    ---Check & adjust valve clearances - £8 (needed one shim)
    Re-respray LHR wing - £0 (done under guarantee)
    Paint inside boot - £5
    Repair passenger seatbelt guide (used solding iron to melt the two parts together :D ) - £0
    Repair "rocking" passenger seat - £5
    Complete the tool kit - £30 (warning triangle, 2x spanners, pliers & screwdriver)
    Fit stainless steel clutch hose & bleed using DOT 5.1 - £25
    ---DISASTER - Thread
    ---Remove transmission to remove clutch slave cyl parts - £0
    ---Manufacture transmission cradle - £0
    ---Inspect clutch - £0 - unfortunately, it is in good condition, so I can't justify a lightweight flywheel (YET !!). The clutch plate has 1mm of wear left on each side (enough for a season).
    ---Replace propshaft nuts and bolts - £60
    Touch up paintwork - £0
    Respray wheels - £20
    Replace wheel centre caps - £35
    Replace front brake pads (uneven wear due to seized caliper) - £80
    Repaint brake calipers - £10
    Sills removed and checked for rust.
    ---There is significant corrosion around the jacking points.
    ---There is corrosion inside the R/H sill at the rear.



    ------Sills acid-dipped and phosphated - £60
    ------Respray both sills - £50
    Front & rear bumpers removed to check for rust.
    ---Paint mountings - £5
    ---Respray front bumper - £100
    ---Respray boot - £25
    ---Respray R/H/R wing - £50
    ---Respray both indicator panels - £25
    Aligned bumpers correctly.
    MOT failed on rear tyres, although they were legal when I measured them. 2mm IS A PASS,
    2x 245/40R17 Continental Sport Contact 3 - £310
    MOT passed with new rear tyres

    -----------Summer 2012-----------

    Reburb seat leather & interior - £150
    Replace passenger seatbelt guide - £17
    Tyre Compressor - £30
    Hardtop - £400 (needs to be painted as it's badly scratched)
    Hardtop fitting tool - £13 for a set of long reach torx keys

    -----------Winter 2012/2013-----------

    Reset service lights (see Thread) - problem has been on car since 2007
    ---Can't even be reset by BMW main dealer :( - £0 - Earthing Pin 7 does not work
    ---Service Indicator Reset Tool - £12 - tool OK, but SI won't reset
    ---Remove SI board and investigate problem
    ------I suspect flat batteries or damaged board - no onboard battery and board appears to be OK
    ------New instrument cluster - £8 - Cluster was not the same, so I couldn't use for spares :cry:
    ---INPA EDIABAS diagnostic cable & software - £30 - still can't reset inst cluster :head:
    ---Carsoft 6.5 - £36
    ------Not working (Microsoft error)
    ------May need Windows 95 :shock: .
    ---I've been told by the BMW Master Tech at Sytner's Nottm that he thinks that it is the SI board on the inst cluster. It is almost impossible to replace the SI board and the best option is to replace the inst cluster. I need to find an M Roadster cluster that has done less miles than mine, as the ECU will be overwritten with the higher mileage of the new cluster.
    ------New M Roadster instrument cluster fitted - £75 - Cluster works and was able to be reset - AT LAST (Thread).
    -----Need to adjust mileage by adding 96,279 miles.
    ----Swapped coding plugs - all faults from original cluster transferred - swapped plugs back.
    ---Mileage reset by a youth with a £25k resetting tool - £50

    Z3 Steering Wheel (smaller airbag) fitted - £25
    Adjust bonnet (not shutting properly on left catch) - £0
    Paint inside bonnet behind plastic grilles - £1
    Replace thermostat - £40
    Oil Service - £50
    Replace Brake Fluid - £10
    Replace Coolant - £30
    Replace top and bottom hoses - £50
    ABS Light ON - replace front ABS sensor and reset light - £30
    R/H/R Boot Tray - £5
    Battery Cover -£5
    MOT passed without any advisories - £45

    -----------Summer 2013-----------

    Adjust softtop to stop it leaking - £0

    -----------Winter 2013/2014-----------

    Brake fluid change (DOT 5.1) - £15
    Rear shock absorber top mounts - £50
    Respray wheels - £100
    RHR needs to be properly repaired as it was wrecked when I sprayed cellulose over the top of polyurethane lacquer.
    Replace front tyres - £210
    Fit battery isolator - £40
    ---- Isolator - £8
    ---- Earth cable - £26
    ---- Solder - £6
    Repair rust on RH door - £0 (incl in respray)
    ---Respray RH door - £0 (incl in respray)
    Respray left side of car damaged after trackday (29/03/2013) - £0 (incl in respray)
    Respray LHR wheel damaged after trackday (29/03/2013) - £0 (incl when I resprayed the wheels)
    Fix damage to front bumper after trackday (13/10/2013) - £0 (incl in respray)
    Respray hardtop - £0 (incl in respray)

    04/02/2014: Car taken to Sytner of Sheffield for full respray. The price is £1500+VAT. This is the price for the job if it is a "fill-in" job and takes the lowest priority in the workshop.

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    17/03/2014: Car collected from Sytner of Sheffield.

    Full respray done by Sytner of Sheffield (it may look like Estoril, but it isn't :wink: ) - £1955

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    Realign all body panels using stainless steel nuts, bolts and washers.

    Polish bodywork and wax - £25
    Repaint, polish and wax gearknob - £1

    Front Roundel - £3 (from eBay). Pins were in the wrong place. You get what you pay for :head: .

    Return car to sort 41 problems with paint (only orange peel around the rear of the hard top, some light paint and the mirror glass in the wrong mirrors justified the rejection).

    02/06/2014: Car returned from painting now. It has a new bonnet badge. I wonder if they broke the old one. The car's MOT ran out last month and the LHR shock is leaking :head: .

    Paintwork is SUPERB. I can only find the following faults...

    1. Earth lead to bonnet was not connected (lead reconnected).
    2. Door handles had paint inside them (paint removed with Stanley blade).
    3. Unadhered paint under bonnet gill (not visible with gill in place).
    4. RH door trim not refitted correctly (door trim removed and replaced properly).
    5. Some VERY MINOR blemishes in the bodywork underneath the paint.

    -----------Summer 2014-----------

    08/06/2014: Valve clearances checked - £0.

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    08/06/2014: Spark plugs replaced - £48.55 for 6x NGK PKR7A-3641.

    09/06/2014: Oil & filter replaced - £30 for Mobil One and £13.82 for filter.

    09/06/2014: Air filter replaced - £23.81.

    09/06/2014: Coolant replaced - £19.36 for coolant & £5 for deionised water.

    10/06/2014: Front wheels removed. Pads and discs measured and serviced.

    16/06/2014: Rear wheels removed. Pads, discs and shoes measured and serviced.

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    14/07/2014 Signed off Inspection 2 [116,405 miles]

    Bilstein B6 (UK price) = £278.38 per pair [24-027182] bilstein.suspensiondirect.co.uk
    Bilstein B6 (US price) = $170.90 per pair (£104 + delivery + taxes approx) bavauto.com
    BMW price - £286.68 per pair + VAT = £344.02 [33.52.2.228.358] Cooper BMW website
    BMW Sytner Nottingham discounted price = £233.34 per pair + VAT = £280.01

    2x Rear Bilstein B6 Shock Absorbers + 1x Boot Roundel delivered from USA = $201.85 + $125.15 shipping + £36.51 UK duty & VAT = $327.00 + £36.51 (£237.93)

    Derestricted exhaust (Thread) - £40 (stainless steel welding wire = £20 and cutting and grinding discs)

    Clean and paint rear suspension components - £20 for Satin Black Hammerite

    Repaired headlight dimmer switch - £0 (Thread)


    -----------Winter 2014/2015-----------

    Fitted lightweight flywheel and clutch (£850) Thread
    Replaced gearbox shift pins (£80) Thread
    Clean and paint air pump pipe (£1)
    Clean and paint rear underside components (£5)
    Repair cracks to rear crossmember and diff support (£1)
    Replace oil pump baffle o-ring and do oil & filter change (£45) [119,000 miles]
    Replace rear high-level brake light gasket (£3)
    Replaced dashboard Air Ducts (£15)
    Replaced RHF brake caliper seals (£20)

    -----------Summer 2015-----------

    Replaced front discs and pads - £180
    MOT (Failed) Off-side front brake binding - £45
    Replaced RHF brake caliper seals - £20
    MOT (Passed)

    -----------Winter 2015/2016-----------

    Replaced rear discs and pads - £185
    Replaced radiator - £106
    Replaced coolant - £20
    Replaced brake fluid - £10
    Completed service (less oil change) [124,040 miles]

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    Headlight Restoration Kit - £19.49
    Oil Service (prior to DTEC) - £44.24 [124,661 miles]
    Replace auxiliary water pump - £40

    -----------Summer 2016-----------

    Replaced vanos rattle kit and seals ($210 = £150.81) (incl $20 for tool BS094)
    Camshaft timing tool + crankshaft locking tool - £46
    24mm open-ended spanner - £9.99
    BMw supplied parts for vanos repair - £114.17
    Seals to replace seals damaged during install - £6
    10x Diodes (1N5401 3A) (wrong diodes) - £1.27
    2x rocker switches (for solenoid activation box) - £2.69
    10x small female spade connectors (for solenoid activation box) - £0.99
    10x Diodes (1N5408 3A) (wrong diodes) - £1.49
    5x Diodes (BYW56-TAP 2A) (wrong diodes) - £2.63
    2x Diodes (BYV26C 1A) (wrong diodes) - £1.99
    10x Diodes (BYW32 2A) (BINGO!!!) (€3.60 = £2.95)
    3x 2.75 valve shims - £10.03
    Total to totally overhaul vanos = £351.01 (incl £74.03 for tools and £13.38 for parts that weren't needed. Another £52.42 could be saved by getting the seals from ebay)
    It's possible to have done the job for £211.18 :)
    See videos on this thread for how to do the job.

    2x 245/40R17 Continental Sport Contact 5 - £220 [128,200 miles] (tyres lasted 20,484 miles)
    MOT (Passed) - £25

    -----------Winter 2016/2017-----------

    Brake servo vacuum hose retaining strap - £1.45

    -----------Summer 2017----------------

    Crankcase ventilation hoses - £31.74
    Aluminium (for intake cooling & shielding) - £21.58

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    Loft insulation (for intake cooling) - £0
    (I've tested it - and I can't set it on fire!!!)

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    Stainless steel mesh to keep loft insulation in place around MAF-to-Plenum elbow - £4.99
    Gold heat tape (for intake cooling) - £19.58
    (I can't set the gold tape on fire, either!!)

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    Still to do (with estimated prices)...

    Replace oil cooler o-rings - £5
    Connect tweeters and rear speakers - £0
    Investigate connecting plug to the back of the radio - £0
    ---Thread
    Clean and paint front suspension components - £0
    Fit Randy Forbes rear floor strengthening - £410 (already bought)
     
    #1 Pingu, May 7, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2017
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  2. billz

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    Thats an awful lot of work you have done in your ownership of the Z. Top work=))
     
  3. Pingu

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    and I've not even got to the vanos strip and re-build - now that was a job and a half:wideyed:
     
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    Wow a whole respray that was cheap!
    Awesome job mate :thumbsup:
     
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    Does bmw really do a full respray for £2000? o_O I need to get booked in!
     
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    Totally with you on that mate!! sunny needs a total respray as well
     
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    Yep. Full change of colour (different shade of blue) respray incl panels off. I expect it would cost more if it was red to white for example.

    The respray was £1800. I had to pay £200 for broken or damaged trim as I asked for the trim to be removed (as opposed to just masked to a line).
     
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    That's a lot of work your done :p
    You Zs in tip top condition ;)
    Welll done to you :)
    Your Z is looking great ;)
     
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    The car looks fantastic thats a serious amount of work!!
     
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    Incredible job you have done with this car, really dedicated work in documenting this cars journey back to glory... Very helpful and a credit to you.
     
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    Welcome @Pingu nice to see you finally come over.
     
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    I'm trying to work out the shade. Is it a BMW colour?
    Not Protonic blue?
    Looks nice, gives it a meaner edge over the standard Estoril.
     
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    It's Ford Performance Blue. The colour is mainly seen on Ford STs.
     
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    Crikey! That's a list and then some :woot: impressive stuff and a great deal on the respray, looks spot on :thumbsup:
     
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    Yes I know it. I looked at Ford blues too, they have some great ones. Will be nice to see it the flesh.
     
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    2016 jobs added, including vanos seal and rattle repairs.
     
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    Great write up. Gives me some motivation with my own one. Your front discs were cheaper thsn the rears. They are usually around £300. Where did you get them ?
     
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    Great write up, good to see you over hrre as well:thumbsup:
     
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    All EBC...
    DP3689C (Front pads) - supplied by Camskill (£82.30)
    DP3690C (Rear pads) - supplied by POTN (£49.61)
    D979 (Front discs) - supplied by POTN (£97.12)
    D1009 (Rear discs) - supplied by Mendip Enterprises (£135.42)
     
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