Not just the VW brand then?

[t-tony]

Porsche and Audi are now implicated in the emissions row in the US. More heads to roll maybe.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/...ions-tests/ar-BBmKAEN?li=AA9SkIr&ocid=U207DHP

And it's the luxury brands now!

Tony.

 

[Antm72]

I mentioned this on our last meet that they shared an engine platform as was said would just be a matter of time before they where found out !

 

[Grumps]

Oh dear!

 

[Jack Ratt]

I wouldn't be surprised if it came to light that other manufacturers outside of VAG operated the same way

 

[t-tony]

Merc have been using the same dodge for many years on the Vito van.

Tony.

 

[Cooper]

I suspect it is a case of the politicians, pushed by the left wing enviro-nazis, demanding efficiency that cannot be achieved short of re-engineered engines to exact specifications [like a F1 car] and fuel so clean and filtered it would cost about USD$5 per litre. It just isn't going to happen folks.

 

[zedonist]

I suspect it is a case of the politicians, pushed by the left wing enviro-nazis, demanding efficiency that cannot be achieved short of re-engineered engines to exact specifications [like a F1 car] and fuel so clean and filtered it would cost about USD$5 per litre. It just isn't going to happen folks.

Mad max is more of a public information film now then...

 

[Redline]

And now petrol engines are caught up in the frenzy....Now theres a suprise - Not!

 

[t-tony]

I been waiting for that Ian, this is just the tip of the iceberg if you ask me. We'll soon see how we've all been taken for a load of muppets.

Tony.

 

[Redline]

I been waiting for that Ian, this is just the tip of the iceberg if you ask me. We'll soon see how we've all been taken for a load of muppets.

Tony.

One thing that always becomes apparent - you get what you measure!
It's human nature then to manipulate inputs to get the best possible output.
The trick is to disturb the measurement process sufficiently that you're less likely to be duped.
Doesn't matter whether it's engines, school test results or anything else for that matter.

 

[GazHyde]