New Fix For Z3 Broken Seat Belt Guides

360Guy

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Both seat belt guides were broken when I purchased my 2001 3.0 Z3. I researched the many YouTube videos and forum repair threads which mostly involved either removing the seats from the car, stripping off the seat covers and replacing the guides from the inside-out, or making vertical cuts in the leather seats behind the guides, ripping out the plastic sewn-in backing plates, and sewing the leather back up. I didn’t want to do either of those so I came up with the following solution. This solution will allow me to easily replace the guides if they break again.

Items needed:
2 new replacement seat belt guides - got mine online at PartsGeek.com at $20 bucks each
4 stainless tee nuts - 1/4"-20
4 stainless round head machine screws - 1/4"-20 x 3/4"
4 snap on screw covers with the snap on washers
2 seat belt guide clips - eBay: “BMW Z3 and M Roadster Seat Belt Guide Fix (2x, Pair)”

Step One:
On the back of the replacement guides, cut off the protruding post that the push nut attaches to.

Step Two:
Drill a 5/16” hole through the back of the new guide where the post was. Be sure that the hole is drilled straight through the guide and not angled - see photo with screwdriver. You may want to drill a smaller pilot hole first. This sized hole will approximate the size of the guide holes in the leather seats.

Step Three:
Cut two sides of the round base plate of the tee nuts so that the remaining rectangular width is the same as the thread receiver. This allows an easier install and will not deform or rip the existing leather seat holes trying to push the larger round base through. They do make tee nuts with rectangular bases but I could not find them at the time.

Step Four:
Push one end of the tee nut into the leather guide seat hole. Using a small flat headed screwdriver, gently lift and stretch the leather up on the other end just enough to push the tee nut base into the hole. If the broken guide post nub is still inside the seat it will spring back and help hold the tee nut securely in place. The sewn-in plastic backing plate inside the seat doesn't get in the way of the tee nut install.

Matching the backing plate that comes with the replacement guide between the back of the guide itself and the outside of the leather seat makes for a sturdy fit when tightening the tee nut with the machine screw. The seat leather is very beefy and there is really no danger of it getting damaged, torn or it being pulled out with normal use unless you’re a gorilla. The seat belt guide clips should help keep the prongs from breaking which is a common problem. I know the “purists” out there will find fault with this fix because it’s not “stock”, but at least I can easily add a new seat belt guide if the prongs fail again.

Hope this helps a few of you. Cheers!
 

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Hwk-I-St8

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So, if I understand this correctly, it's just the leather holding the guide in place?
 

360Guy

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More than that. The outside backing plate and tee nut is pushing against the inner backing plate. That's why I didn't rip out the inner backing plate. As long as you don't yank the seat belt like a gorilla, it will hold up just fine. No problems so far on mine.
 

t-tony

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This is what I did and it is still ok to this day.


I didn't quite get the two pieces aligned spot on, but, it is an easy, cost effective repair.

Tony.
 

Pingu

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So, if I understand this correctly, it's just the leather holding the guide in place?
Always consider where the most likely point of failure will be.

Is it a £17 piece of plastic that's a PITA to fit, or is it a £200 piece of leather that is even more of a pain in the butt to repair?
 

Ade33

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I've just finished replacing the seat belt guide on my passenger seat..It's a 2002 Z3 fitted with sports seats. I was going to take it to an upholsterer to do but started researching and looked at a number of you tubes and then the DIY on Pelican parts website..so I decided to do it myself

I can only vouch for sports seats but if your DIY skills extend to banging a nail in straight and you are methodical I don't believe its actually that difficult on a sports seat to replace the guide with a new one..There is no sewing involved and the top cover unzips at the back once you have removed the large plastic cover plate..I reckon it took me four hours all in. I reckon I could do the next one in half that time or less

Finally big shout out to Mark at BMW Soper of Lincoln. He supplied a genuine BMW guide with forum discount at a cheaper price than some of the stuff on Ebay which I suspect are copies
 

t-tony

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Mark is a very nice and helpful chap.:thumbsup:

Tony.
 
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