If you took up the option of an Extension on your MOT earlier this year here is something you should be aware of.
Tony.
Tony.
MOT Extension.
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I probably have more sympathy with the second story and the warranty.
Regardless of having an MOT a car needs to be kept in roadworthy condition and that one wasn’t. So I don’t really see what the insurers saying it should have had an MOT and been picked up has to do with it. It just should have been picked up and dealt with anyway - surely?
Regardless of having an MOT a car needs to be kept in roadworthy condition and that one wasn’t. So I don’t really see what the insurers saying it should have had an MOT and been picked up has to do with it. It just should have been picked up and dealt with anyway - surely?
Conditions of the MOT extension was that the car still has to be kept roadworthy,
the conditions of insurance are also that a car is kept roadworthy,
I suspect it was not paid out because of this, and not directly a missed MOT.
Brakes could equally wear out between 12 month MOT's anyway.
I wonder if the brake wear light was on, and/or no servicing or maintenance was done?
I suspect more likely a story adjusted for better reading.
the conditions of insurance are also that a car is kept roadworthy,
I suspect it was not paid out because of this, and not directly a missed MOT.
Brakes could equally wear out between 12 month MOT's anyway.
I wonder if the brake wear light was on, and/or no servicing or maintenance was done?
I suspect more likely a story adjusted for better reading.
The MOT extension was put in place to avoid cars being OTR because of potentially reduced MOT testing capacity.
My car was done in April as it came due, as normal. Unfortunately, some saw this as an opportunity to delay to save money.
If car is not roadworthy, entirely their fault; good on the insurance company.
My car was done in April as it came due, as normal. Unfortunately, some saw this as an opportunity to delay to save money.
If car is not roadworthy, entirely their fault; good on the insurance company.
Looks like a bit of a lazy story to me, the payout wasn’t refused due to the 6 month extension, it was refused due to brake pads being dangerously low, I am maybe being naive but who waits for an mot to check the brake pads? Out of curiosity how low do pads need to be to be classed as dangerously low?
From the MOT Testers Manual.
1.1.13. Brake linings and pads
Some brake pads have metal wear indicators so that when the pads become excessively worn the metal indicator touches the disc making a squealing sound. Other pads may have a cut, which if worn away indicates that the pad must be replaced.
Quite often you cannot see the thickness of the pad as many cars have a wear lip on the disc which is as much as 1.5mm!
Tony.
1.1.13. Brake linings and pads
Some brake pads have metal wear indicators so that when the pads become excessively worn the metal indicator touches the disc making a squealing sound. Other pads may have a cut, which if worn away indicates that the pad must be replaced.
| Defect | Category |
|---|---|
| (a) Brake lining or pad: (i) worn down to wear indicator (ii) worn below 1.5mm | Major Dangerous |
| (b) Brake lining or pad contaminated with oil, grease etc. | Major |
| (c) Brake lining or pad missing or incorrectly mounted |
Quite often you cannot see the thickness of the pad as many cars have a wear lip on the disc which is as much as 1.5mm!
Tony.
Just one of the contradictions you find in the manual mate. Gary had the pad wear light come on on his VW Crafter today so I dispatched him to get new pads and wires for it. His MOT is due at the end of the month so I know there's enough lining on there to keep him going for a few days, but, if he had told me it had been on for a couple of weeks then they would be well past it. That is something a Tester has to consider when testing a vehicle. A light on the dash concentrates the mind for you. I bet Lewis Hamilton wishes he had one for Pit Lane Closure.
Tony.
Tony.
Had a bit of a job trying to persuade my missus today that the Peugeot garage were talking cobblers today about the state of her rear discs.
One rear disc is heavily scored. Both discs have a substantial lip and I’d guess at 1mm of wear quite easily. It’s a 9mm disc new so must be down to 8mm which is the minimum. They measured it at 9mm! How can it still be the thickness it was new with a substantial lip! And said the heavy scoring that I can comfortably catch my finger nail in all across the width was perfectly fine!
I lost as the garage must be right apparently. I think not. If it was my car it would be getting new discs. And I’d want to know why it wore like that in the first place, eg knackered bearing etc causing wobbling. A stone/foreign body has not done that.
One rear disc is heavily scored. Both discs have a substantial lip and I’d guess at 1mm of wear quite easily. It’s a 9mm disc new so must be down to 8mm which is the minimum. They measured it at 9mm! How can it still be the thickness it was new with a substantial lip! And said the heavy scoring that I can comfortably catch my finger nail in all across the width was perfectly fine!
I lost as the garage must be right apparently. I think not. If it was my car it would be getting new discs. And I’d want to know why it wore like that in the first place, eg knackered bearing etc causing wobbling. A stone/foreign body has not done that.
Discs wear like that because there is no Asbestos in the pads anymore Rob. I changed the rear discs and pads on the oil burner earlier in the year and I know i have to do the fronts before MOT time early next month. This because the insides are corroded and pitted because of light braking all the time. It certainly does not hurts to giver your brakes a beasting now and again to keep the discs clean when it's safe to do so, although "fly by wire" throttles make it difficult to do because as soon as the brake lights light up the throttle is "killed" so you only get one hit at a time unlike the old days when you could ride the brake and throttle together. At least you can clean the Parking brake like this.
Tony.
Tony.
Interesting thank you. So that’s why they wear. And my missus is a very light braker so that makes sense.
But if a disc is badly scored and down to minimum thickness it needs changing surely however it was caused? I can’t get my head round how the garage thought a disc that badly scored was okay? Or is it me worrying too much and applying Z3 thinking to a modern car I know zip about?
Yes, you answered your own question there mate. You have to remember that the MOT test is looking for the minimum acceptable standard only. As you say, we, as enthusiasts do the opposite sometimes.
Tony.
Tony.
Thanks Tony. It was actually a service where you might think a main dealer would take the opportunity to recommend a set of discs/pads. But they also know it's a lease car and my missus doesn't want to spend money she doesn't have to. Not my way of doing it. But 14 years of her Royal Rightness has taught me not to argue