M52tu Manifold Swap

Antm72

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So after looking in to the M52tu manifold conversion I have always though I wouldn't bothered some report say it's not worth it.
After digging and chatting the info gain suggested may be it was. So purchased a near complete M54B30 manifold and decided to give it a go
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Needed to order a few more bits so new gaskets order to remount it along with an adapter plate to mount my M52TU Throttle body to the manifold.
This arrived quickly from Latvia from Bimmertune and fitted a treat, a nicely machined adapter with all it's fittings.
Offered up here.
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And after a build up it can be seen here between the manifold and throttle body.
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The manifold shares all the sensors from the M54 when cross matching the part numbers so the swap is straight forward.
You can see below the difference in inlet size between old and new from the smaller oval M52tu to the larger D shaped port of the M54 manifold this matching how the head is machined.
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A closer image here.

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Quite a difference and not to dissimilar in the M52- M50 conversion.
The manifold came with the new Disa valve the size of this valve is huge compared to the M52tu one shown below.
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Now this part although it tested good having found online how to check one was a bit loose and on removing it the end pin nearly fell out. You hear of the damage this could cause although it could come loose but not fall out as it fits against a casing preventing it.
The old bits...
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The flap mounts on the cam but it was worn so it slopped about quite common.
I decided a rebuild was the best option so brought a kit.
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This cures the pin problem as it bolts though the cam from the opposite end so in theory no pin to fall out.
The black parts although they look plastic are aircraft grade aluminium so are far superior to stock.
It's fixed the issue and the valve now works perfectly
You can see the pin on the right flat
topped and the pin left just comes up through so rather than pivoting on two pins it runs on a full rod.
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The removal was actually far easier than I expected and a hour saw it all in bits The engine was nice an dry under the manifold and all looks well.
It did show a blocked breather from the CCV to the dip stick but it all cleaned through and I removed the dipstick tube to flush it all out.
Looks drastic but it's not a bad job if I'm honest.
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Everything tagged new blank plugs behind the manifold fitted as they where perished and split so caught in time before it gave issue. New vacuum lines to everything underneath whilst it's all out.
Just waiting the manifold gasket and a new T.B seal and I'll get it back together :thumbsup:
 

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Good job to get done over winter.

Looks like a good job and hope you see the power gains :thumbsup:
 

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Good job to get done over winter.

Looks like a good job and hope you see the power gains :thumbsup:
It certainly won't hurt hopefully some gains for talking to others it offers some more mid to high end power so should be interesting.:thumbsup:
 

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Great job mate, hopefully a few more horses released :thumbsup:
 

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When you come to put it back together as you offer it up to engine make sure you clip the lower engine wiring loome into the steel clip on the manifold bracket that locates to the engine block. It's impossible to do it once the manifold is bolted up!! I know!!
 

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I know the one you mean it sits along side the mount it's like the same as the connectors for the lambda sensors above. That's a few that clip in the rear as well some will be awkward :arghh:
 

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Wha sort of piping are you using to replace the vacuum lines- makes sense to refresh all that important stuff that you cannot get to normally.

Are the special BW parts or generic piping?
 

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So after looking in to the M52tu manifold conversion I have always though I wouldn't bothered some report say it's not worth it.
After digging and chatting the info gain suggested may be it was. So purchased a near complete M54B30 manifold and decided to give it a go
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Needed to order a few more bits so new gaskets order to remount it along with an adapter plate to mount my M52TU Throttle body to the manifold.
This arrived quickly from Latvia from Bimmertune and fitted a treat, a nicely machined adapter with all it's fittings.
Offered up here.View attachment 74306
And after a build up it can be seen here between the manifold and throttle body.
View attachment 74309
The manifold shares all the sensors from the M54 when cross matching the part numbers so the swap is straight forward.
You can see below the difference in inlet size between old and new from the smaller oval M52tu to the larger D shaped port of the M54 manifold this matching how the head is machined.
View attachment 74307
A closer image here.

View attachment 74308
Quite a difference and not to dissimilar in the M52- M50 conversion.
The manifold came with the new Disa valve the size of this valve is huge compared to the M52tu one shown below.
View attachment 74310
Now this part although it tested good having found online how to check one was a bit loose and on removing it the end pin nearly fell out. You hear of the damage this could cause although it could come loose but not fall out as it fits against a casing preventing it.
The old bits...
View attachment 74311
The flap mounts on the cam but it was worn so it slopped about quite common.
I decided a rebuild was the best option so brought a kit.
View attachment 74315
This cures the pin problem as it bolts though the cam from the opposite end so in theory no pin to fall out.
The black parts although they look plastic are aircraft grade aluminium so are far superior to stock.
It's fixed the issue and the valve now works perfectly
You can see the pin on the right flat
topped and the pin left just comes up through so rather than pivoting on two pins it runs on a full rod.
View attachment 74318
The removal was actually far easier than I expected and a hour saw it all in bits The engine was nice an dry under the manifold and all looks well.
It did show a blocked breather from the CCV to the dip stick but it all cleaned through and I removed the dipstick tube to flush it all out.
Looks drastic but it's not a bad job if I'm honest.
View attachment 74313
Everything tagged new blank plugs behind the manifold fitted as they where perished and split so caught in time before it gave issue. New vacuum lines to everything underneath whilst it's all out.
Just waiting the manifold gasket and a new T.B seal and I'll get it back together :thumbsup:
I recognise those cable tags pal :D
 

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Well done ant ,I'm sure it will be worth all the hard work ,and back ache ,when it's all done mate.
Jimmy
 

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Nice work so far, it's a much easier swap than doing it on the single vanos. I used that kit to rebuild my DISA at the weekend, wasn't much wrong with it but it should be bulletproof in the future. They supplied and O ring with my kit which wasn't needed.
 
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Antm72

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I got a new seal too have fitted it as the old one was tired to be honest. Every seal has been replaced all pipes cleaned through the engine looks superb down the inlets no carbon build up just all clean an shiny.
Agree completely hassle free compared to the M50 conversion :thumbsup:
 

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All back together this morning and out for a 50 odd Mile test drive. Went together easy and fire and ran smoothly first turn of the key.
Car is very quiet and looks the same as it did pre swap.
Drives great torque has improved and over all the car seems to drive a lot less laboured and doesn't run out of steam up the top.
Very happy with the result another box ticked :thumbsup:
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Nice one mate, another one bites the dust.:thumbsup:

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Excellent work Ant, you make it seem so easy:thumbsup:
 

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Good work there :thumbsup:
 

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Hi, just picked up a 54 manifold with purple injectors. Does anyone know if these are ok to use or do I need to replace with the original ones on the 52 manifold?

Andy
 
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