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Tony.
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Tony.
M.O.T. here we go again.
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What a load of tosh, the reason that 2% of all accident are down to mechanical breakdown is because we have MOTs, you and Stevo show us that on a regular basis with some of the death traps you show on here
That’s just poor thinking. Claiming that only 2% of accidents are due to maintenance issues should be a claim for success. Knowing that many only maintain their car because it gets it through the MoT is surely a reason to keep it. It would be far higher than 2% if the MoT wasn’t there.
Should the MoT keep getting stricter?
Things like emissions could be managed effectively through increased road tax if it fails making it an incentive to get it fixed. Emissions per se doesn’t make a car unsafe. Antisocial yes, but unsafe, no.
Should the MoT keep getting stricter?
Things like emissions could be managed effectively through increased road tax if it fails making it an incentive to get it fixed. Emissions per se doesn’t make a car unsafe. Antisocial yes, but unsafe, no.
Are they having a laugh? Only 2 percent of accidents have mechanical failures as the root cause?
So that won’t be anything to do with the MOT preventing more than 2% then?
My only issue with the MOT is the inconsistency between testers.
So that won’t be anything to do with the MOT preventing more than 2% then?
My only issue with the MOT is the inconsistency between testers.
This is something you can fairly lay at the feet of the DVSA, VOSA, The D.O.T. or whatever they'll be called tomorrow. They have abandoned their responsibilities towards training testers to a national standard, instead they now have testers at each station observing each other carry out tests each month, keeping a log and adding this to their yearly "training" hours. This not only creates inconsistency between testers but, more over between testing stations, as each will ultimately achieve a level which they're all happy with at each station.
Tony.
I’m a bit grumpy at the moment as my latest project passed yesterday but the effort that went into it I felt deserved no advisories.
Instead I get an advisory for a corroded subframe. Due apparently to a little surface rust on the axle carrier and trailing arms. Those parts were amongst the most solid I’ve ever seen! I said that must mean all Z3s and older cars would end up with that advisory and he said under the new rules, yes. I don’t think so.
Instead I get an advisory for a corroded subframe. Due apparently to a little surface rust on the axle carrier and trailing arms. Those parts were amongst the most solid I’ve ever seen! I said that must mean all Z3s and older cars would end up with that advisory and he said under the new rules, yes. I don’t think so.
I know of one that wouldn't
My last MOT for my Merc listed 12 advisories and when I asked if I should get rid of it the tester said that there's nothing serious and the car should be OK for years yet ?????
Well that's the thing. Under this new MOT you don't yet, although I do doubt it will be your 'rear subframe' as they refer to itI know of one that wouldn't
Total crap Rob. I will bet you that tester has no, or very little, experience of seeing a regular car come back year on year to see what he/she is advising on. I'll be glad when I don't have to do this any more TBH. It's a farce.
Tony.
I agree Tony that the current system is seriously flawed but its better then whats proposed in the above link
I suspect despite being a middle age guy he was newly trained. He’s certainly new to the garage. I think he was the ultimate ar*e coverer from a couple of other remarks he made.
It’s just not helpful really when testers are more interested in an ar*e covering exercise rather than recording a fair reflection of the condition of the car.
It’s just not helpful really when testers are more interested in an ar*e covering exercise rather than recording a fair reflection of the condition of the car.
That "Think Tank" report is ridiculous. Roadworthiness tests are essential for all vehicles, be it MOT or otherwise if MOT exempt. I agree the comment about poor driving standards. Many people now treat cars as "white goods" with little interest in driving. Most current car advertisements reflect this.
I like a good think tank, arn't they just great! 
I do think that the MOT goes to far, it used to be just the safety points , Brakes, steering,lights, then they gradually increased checks to cover points which go to far. Just drop it back to cover the important basics
I sympathise. It paints a poor picture of a car which I would expect to be perfectly sound.
Some advisories I’m okay with. If you look at MOT histories you’ll see eg yr 1 advisory yr 2 advisory yr 3 fail on something like a ballpoint. I’m okay with that. Any mechanical wear in a critical component let’s hear about it and monitor it or better still replace it now.
But not this ridiculous ar*e covering and give a good car a bad name.
Are these people f****ng nuts?? That’s just what we need a load of unsafe cars (and lorries ?) being driven on motorways or being driven on crowded city streets.
MOTs were put in place in 1960 for a very good reason.....so has that reason now gone away????.......NO ! And there are now 10 times the amount of cars on the road since the MOT was introduced, So even more important now.
MOTs were put in place in 1960 for a very good reason.....so has that reason now gone away????.......NO ! And there are now 10 times the amount of cars on the road since the MOT was introduced, So even more important now.
Yes I am sure the government will say "we no longer want £££'s off every motorist, for someone else's work".
Dream on.
Another total waste of money given for ideas generated by 'brains' that can't get a proper job.
The "Adam Smith Institute" I thought people get locked up in an "institute".
Some college boys and girls with more degrees that a protractor, yet no real job.
No need to panic, It will never happen.
Dream on.
Another total waste of money given for ideas generated by 'brains' that can't get a proper job.
The "Adam Smith Institute" I thought people get locked up in an "institute".
Some college boys and girls with more degrees that a protractor, yet no real job.
No need to panic, It will never happen.
OMG I didn't realize things had got that bad, next time my MOT is due I'm taking the pen out of the glove box
billysally208
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You could always have sprayed it with underseal (I Waxoyl my cars every year prior to MOT) - but then you get an advisory saying the car is covered in underseal