Archived Germany, Austria, Italy & Switzerland Euro Trip 2017

[billz]

Me, Mozz and our good ladies are again off to Europe next year but going further over and into Austria. this will be our 7th Euro Trip in 6 years. I have been busy planning since we got back off our last one and i have now more or less finalised the route.
We will be driving down and staying over at Ashford and catching the Tunnel on Sunday
The Euro part of the trip will consist of the following.
Sunday drive to Trier in Germany and spend 3 nights no driving on the Tuesday this day will be for sightseeing.
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/208396?mode=share
Monday. Drive up the Moselle Valley following the twists and turns of the river,.
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/208455?mode=share
Wednesday we drive down to Hockenshwand following the 500 route as recommended by various sites
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/213982?mode=share
Thursday we make our debut visit to Austria staying in Kappl after taking in the Klausenpass in Switzerland.
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/214331?mode=share
Friday We head over to Fugen in Austria after visiting Ice Q Restaurant (In Spectre) where we will be staying for 3 nights
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/214333?mode=share
Whilst here we will be making a trip to the Grossglockner
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/208499?mode=share
Monday We then head to Livigno Italy via the Stelviopass and will be calling at the restaurant at the bottem where they do an amazing omelette ( ask brian zedwheels )
Here we will be staying for 3 nights Half Board and taking in some passes as well as some R & R
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/208532?mode=share
Thursday We head over to Ulrichen in Switzerland staying for 2 nights (as we like this Hotel) traveling via the Julier pass and Gottard pass and San Bernadino Pass
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/214346?mode=share
Saturday We head back home staying in Epinal after visiting the Pie Shop in the Gran Ballon
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/214503?mode=share
Sunday We drive to St Omer and catch the Tunnel back home on the Monday
There maybe the odd change to this but they will be very minimal
These are the Hotels we are staying at and a rough itinerary
Trier Germany 3 nights
http://www.booking.com/hotel/de/deutscher-hof.en-gb.html?label=gen173nr-1DCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaFCIAQGYAS64AQzIAQzYAQPoAQGoAgM;sid=5ad895968a1ef8461ac8c829c7789c58;all_sr_blocks=6458812_91090451_0_2_0;checkin=2017-07-02;checkout=2017-07-05;dest_id=-1875885;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;highlighted_blocks=6458812_91090451_0_2_0;hpos=1;room1=A,A;sb_price_type=total;srfid=1df438c71042ec862bbb4c06f3c4e822e307e91fX1;type=total;ucfs=1&
The Black Forest 1 night
http://www.booking.com/hotel/de/cortina-hochenschwand.en-gb.html?label=gen173nr-1DCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaFCIAQGYAS64AQzIAQzYAQPoAQGoAgM;sid=5ad895968a1ef8461ac8c829c7789c58;checkin=2017-07-02;checkout=2017-07-05;dest_id=-1793495;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;room1=A,A;sb_price_type=total;soh=1;soldout=0,0;srfid=0385afbcf597d6a036b8a5158a496bd61af4b4deX1;type=total;ucfs=1&
Austria 1 night stop
http://www.booking.com/hotel/at/sport-garni-kapplerhof.en-gb.html?label=gen173nr-1DCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaFCIAQGYAS64AQzIAQzYAQPoAQGoAgM;sid=5ad895968a1ef8461ac8c829c7789c58;all_sr_blocks=31822201_87865955_0_1_0;checkin=2017-07-02;checkout=2017-07-05;dest_id=-1981913;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;highlighted_blocks=31822201_87865955_0_1_0;room1=A,A;sb_price_type=total;srfid=49e33b23a6fe143a701af330c6ae9d383aff89b7X1;type=total;ucfs=1&
Fugen Austria 3 nights
http://www.booking.com/hotel/at/pension-central-fugen.en-gb.html?label=gen173nr-1DCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaFCIAQGYAS64AQzIAQzYAQPoAQGoAgM;sid=5ad895968a1ef8461ac8c829c7789c58;all_sr_blocks=29093514_89416230_2_34_0;checkin=2017-07-02;checkout=2017-07-05;dest_id=-1977447;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;highlighted_blocks=29093514_89416230_2_34_0;room1=A,A;sb_price_type=total;srfid=b154477920272f10fd627ab1dd64324b805a21e6X1;type=total;ucfs=1&
Livigno Italy 3 nights
http://www.booking.com/hotel/it/alpen-village-hotel.en-gb.html?label=gen173nr-1DCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaFCIAQGYAS64AQzIAQzYAQPoAQGoAgM;sid=5ad895968a1ef8461ac8c829c7789c58;all_sr_blocks=18701411_88442145_0_2_0;checkin=2017-07-02;checkout=2017-07-05;dest_id=-120253;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;highlighted_blocks=18701411_88442145_0_2_0;hpos=1;room1=A,A;sb_price_type=total;srfid=5f088b4ac8893ea6be46ee9b0549b6ec1d3dc042X1;type=total;ucfs=1&
Ulrichen Switzerland 2 nights
http://www.booking.com/hotel/ch/astoria-ulrichen.en-gb.html?label=gen173nr-1DCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaFCIAQGYAS64AQzIAQzYAQPoAQGoAgM;sid=5ad895968a1ef8461ac8c829c7789c58;all_sr_blocks=23808706_88734563_0_1_0;checkin=2017-07-02;checkout=2017-07-05;dest_id=-2554557;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;highlighted_blocks=23808706_88734563_0_1_0;room1=A,A;sb_price_type=total;srfid=08cd2489627dd46bdd599efea1dc778f0ef23217X1;type=total;ucfs=1&
We then stay in the Ibis Epinal and the Ibis St Omer both for one night on the way back to the tunnel.
The areas we are visiting are
The Moselle Valley Germany
The Black Forest Germany
Ice Q Restaurant Soelden (In Spectre) Austria
The Grossglockner High Mountain road Austria
Various passes in Austria, Italy and Switzerland
The Grand Ballon France
The Itinerary
We will leave on the Saturday the 1st July. Staying just outside Ashford before catching the Tunnel on Sunday the 2nd
We have decided to stay in Trier for 3 nights. On one of the days we will drive up the Moselle the other day will be relaxing and sight seeing in Trier.
Then it will be a drive through the Black Forest before heading over for a 1 night stop just inside Austria going via the Klausen Pass. We will then take the scenic route towards Fugen and if we have time we will be visiting the Ice Q Restaurant if not then we will visit it when we stay in Fugen as we have left a day spare as we will be there for 3 nights. The other spare day will be driving the Grossglockner Pass.
After Austria we will drive to Livigno where again we will be staying for 3 nights (This is also a tax haven). We then drive to Ulrichen which is on the junction of the Furka and Nuffenen Pass for 2 nights allowing us to drive possibly the Furka, Susten and Grimsel Triangle. This area me and Maurice now know very well, as we do the Livigno area. But we will be trying some new passes that we have not had time to do in the past visits.
Then we drive to Epinal in France and onto St Omer just before Calais.
We will be doing 4 Nights Germany, 4 Nights Austria, 3 Nights Italy, 2 Nights Swizerland and 2 Nights France
We have calculated doing between 2500 and 3000 miles depending on trips out. So we reckon around 8 tanks of fuel at an average of 55€ a tank so the fuel cost should be around 600€
Hotels Costing €975 and SF265
Tunel should come in at £160
Hotel at Ashford £95
Vignette £30
Austrian Vignette £8
I have put the prices for anyone who is planning to do something similar in the future so you will have a rough idea of the cost.
This is for a 16 night Holiday

 

[MAURICE THE MARTIAN]

Sounds a good trip, glad you n Andrea sorted it out
Think I'll have a vat of red to celebrate

 

[zedwheels]

Looks a good run and we are a strong "maybe" at this time Billz.

 

[billz]

Looks a good run and we are a strong "maybe" at this time Billz.

I will PM you a list of the hotels we are staying at once we have finalised them Brian so if you decide to join us you have them to hand. The 3 Amigos again

 

[MAURICE THE MARTIAN]

Be good to have you both along Brian .
M

 

[billz]

Brian zedwheels if you go to www.myrouteapp.com and sign up and add me as a friend you can get all the links to the routes which you can save

 

[MAURICE THE MARTIAN]

Can I be your friend too .

 

[billz]

Only if you sign up. You will never be a friend just someone i take on euro cruises

 

[billz]

One of the places ear marked to visit
https://www.soelden.com/urlaub/EN/SD/WI/aktuell/news/restaurant_ice_q/index.html

 

[billz]

We will also be visiting the Grossglockner
https://www.grossglockner.at/gg/en/index

 

[billz]

The route through the Black Forest
http://www.black-forest-travel.com/high-road/

 

[Grumps]

Can I be your friend too .

No

 

[Grumps]

Looks great Bill. You appear to be in your element organising these runs.

 

[zedwheels]

I have signed up now billz, that means we are friends, don't blame you for not wanting aliens to join, never know what they get up to!

 

[billz]

I have accepted you so you should be able to click on my name and view my routes

 

[zedwheels]

Hi billz, yes I can open the routes, what I have is a plan to Epinal, and a couple of others so I assume your still working on the Germany
route? Anyway I am giving it a go!

 

[billz]

I have completed all the routes now, it is just the final hotel locations i will need to imput. So far i have planned 3 nights Trier then drive down through the black forest to around weilhiem going down the route 500. So that gives 4 nights in Germany then its in to Austria via the Klausen pass and then on to Fugen in Austria for 3 nights giving 4 nights in toral in Austria. We then head to Livigno for 3 nighfo. 2 nights at Ulrichen which is just down the road from where the Alpenhoff Hotel is. This hotel is a lot better.
We will be booking hotels in the next couple of weeks and i will put links up once i have finalised them.
When will you know if you are joining us and will it be for parts or the whole of the trip mate.

 

[MAURICE THE MARTIAN]

Hi billz, yes I can open the routes, what I have is a plan to Epinal, and a couple of others so I assume your still working on the Germany
route? Anyway I am giving it a go!

Dunna worry bri .it always changes .he's not got my views yet. Him n andrea seem to be doing the planning.but i'll put my spoke in soon .he he

 

[billz]

We have now decided on the Hotels and they are now all booked. They are as follows.
Trier Germany 3 nights
http://www.booking.com/hotel/de/deu...2bbb4c06f3c4e822e307e91fX1;type=total;ucfs=1&
The Black Forest 1 night
http://www.booking.com/hotel/de/cor...36b8a5158a496bd61af4b4deX1;type=total;ucfs=1&
Austria 1 night stop
http://www.booking.com/hotel/at/spo...701af330c6ae9d383aff89b7X1;type=total;ucfs=1&
Fugen Austria 3 nights
http://www.booking.com/hotel/at/pen...fd627ab1dd64324b805a21e6X1;type=total;ucfs=1&
Livigno Italy 3 nights
http://www.booking.com/hotel/it/alp...be46ee9b0549b6ec1d3dc042X1;type=total;ucfs=1&
Ulrichen Switzerland 2 nights
http://www.booking.com/hotel/ch/ast...dd599efea1dc778f0ef23217X1;type=total;ucfs=1&
We then stay in the Ibis Epinal and the Ibis St Omer both for one night on the way back to the tunnel.
The areas we are visiting are
The Moselle Valley Germany
The Black Forest Germany
Ice Q Restaurant Soelden (In Spectre) Austria
The Grossglockner High Mountain road Austria
Various passes in Austria, Italy and Switzerland
The Grand Ballon France

 

[billz]

After being in discussion with Mrs Mozza. This is now what we have planned and have booked all hotels.
We will leave on the Saturday the 1st July. Staying just outside Ashford before catching the Tunnel on Sunday the 2nd
We have decided to stay in Trier for 3 nights. On one of the days we will drive up the Moselle the other day will be relaxing and sight seeing in Trier.
Then it will be a drive through the Black Forest before heading over for a 1 night stop just inside Austria going via the Klausen Pass. We will then take the scenic route towards Fugen and if we have time we will be visiting the Ice Q Restaurant if not then we will visit it when we stay in Fugen as we have left a day spare as we will be there for 3 nights. The other spare day will be driving the Grossglockner Pass.
After Austria we will drive to Livigno where again we will be staying for 3 nights (This is also a tax haven). We then drive to Ulrichen which is on the junction of the Furka and Nuffenen Pass for 2 nights allowing us to drive possibly the Furka, Susten and Grimsel Triangle. This area me and Maurice now know very well, as we do the Livigno area. But we will be trying some new passes that we have not had time to do in the past visits.
Then we drive to Epinal in France and onto St Omer just before Calais.
We will be doing 4 Nights Germany, 4 Nights Austria, 3 Nights Italy, 2 Nights Swizerland and 2 Nights France
We have calculated doing between 2500 and 3000 miles depending on trips out. So we reckon around 8 tanks of fuel at an average of 55€ a tank so the fuel cost should be around 600€